Help with NUC storage options

dragon1952
dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
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I just bought a NUC5i5RYK from Ebay mainly because I got a killer price on it. It has the "K" letter designation which I didn't understand until later
So evidently the only hard drive option I have is M.2 but there are all kinds of different M.2 bus types it looks like. SATA, PCIe, blah blah blah. So can someone look at the info link and tell me what my options are?
https://ark.intel.com/products/83254/Intel-NUC-Kit-NUC5i5RYK
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,281
    There is no internal storage expansion options with the NUC, just get a USB 3 (USB Blue) Western Digital external USB3 passport for your music

    Is that what you are asking??
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    Well I realize I'm a little behind on this type of technology, but there are internal storage options....Basically an M.2 type but I'm just not sure what the MB interface is, whether SATA, PCIe, both, neither, something else?
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,281
    Here's my portable INUC system for music for shows
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    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    nbrowser wrote: »
    DollarDave wrote: »
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine

    Yep, just stay away from PCIe or nVME M.2 sticks and your golden.

    Any particular reason?
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    DollarDave wrote: »
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine

    Cool...thanks, so I can use M.2 SATA.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,281
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    DollarDave wrote: »
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine

    Cool...thanks, so I can use M.2 SATA.

    Yes, sorry, mine is an older version
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
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    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2018
    nbrowser wrote: »
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    nbrowser wrote: »
    DollarDave wrote: »
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine

    Yep, just stay away from PCIe or nVME M.2 sticks and your golden.

    Any particular reason?

    M.2 SATA is more compatible with much more systems than PCIe or nVME. Most if not all systems will address and use a SATA mode M.2 stick...take a PCIe or nVME stick and place it into a SATA mode only slot and it won't work. In other words...should be compatible without fussing.

    So looking at the manual mine says under 'Expansion Options',
    1. M.2 Card Slot (storage) - M.2 Card Slot (storage) indicates presence of an M.2 slot that's keyed for storage expansion cards
    2. PCI Express Configurations - PCI Express (PCIe) Configurations describe the available PCIe lane configurations that can be used to link the PCH PCIe lanes to PCIe devices.

    and nowhere does is use the term 'SATA', 'AHCI' or 'NVMe'. So do I assume #1 is an M.2 SATA slot where I can use an M.2 SATA SSD but then I can also use under #2 an M.2 PCIe SSD, and if I can use a PCIe is it AHCI or NVMe? And then they mention M.2 cards having B key, M key and M and B edge connectors.
    It just seems to me they give the users of these things way too much credit for their knowledge levels. I guess they figure anyone buying a barebones PC knows WTF they are doing and can read between the lines. We're supposed to automatically know that a "K' suffice is M.2 only and that an 'H' means you can use a regular 2.5" drive? Crimeny, I'm from an IT background and even I'm confused.
    EDIT: Here's an example of what you get when you Google the subject,

    "So which M.2 SSD Drive do I need?
    If you are planning to upgrade your system with a larger or brand new M.2 SSD, you are going to need to figure out several things:

    1. Whether your system supports M.2 SATA or M.2 PCIe
    2. If it is M.2 PCIe, whether it's PCIe x2 or PCIe x4
    3. The type of key supported by the socket
    4. The maximum length of SSD drive supported (from 42mm up to 110mm)
    Using the above tables and your system manual, you should be able to figure out which kind of drive you have now and the appropriate upgrade path. The information below can help narrow down the choices for you."

    So, these first 2 I'm still unclear about
    1. I "think" from looking at my manual that mine supports both M.2 SATA and M.2 PCIe but it's still unclear because SATA isn't mentioned and I'm not sure if the PCIe expansion slot actually supports an SSD.
    2. If it does support PCIe it looks like it's the x 4.
    These next 2 I think I know
    3. It looks like the key type is 'M'.
    4. Length appears to be 22x42, 22x60, or 22x80
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2018
    Thanks. I eventually ran across this where they used a PCIe SSD so I guess I have my answer that it can use either the SATA or the PCIe/nVME.
    http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-nuc-kit-nuc5i5ryk-review-broadwell-comes-nuc_158261/3
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  • Absolute_Zero
    Absolute_Zero Posts: 72
    nbrowser wrote: »
    dragon1952 wrote: »
    nbrowser wrote: »
    DollarDave wrote: »
    An m.2 Sata will work just fine

    Yep, just stay away from PCIe or nVME M.2 sticks and your golden.

    Any particular reason?

    M.2 SATA is more compatible with much more systems than PCIe or nVME. Most if not all systems will address and use a SATA mode M.2 stick...take a PCIe or nVME stick and place it into a SATA mode only slot and it won't work. In other words...should be compatible without fussing.

    His version suppoorts NVME and PCI-E M.2 which can and usually are much quicker than SATA versions of M.2

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