Which subwoofer (used)?

CowTownBartCowTownBart Posts: 6
edited March 7 in Speakers
Hello everyone!
Let's say I have this choice (second-hand speakers, prices in Canadian $):

PSW 1 - $90
PSW 10 - $90
PSW 108 - $100
PSW 250 - $120

Which one should I get? Or should I rather get brand new PS10 for $200?

Comments

  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,766
    Honestly, flip a coin, there ain't much difference between them.

    There is not such thing as a PSW1

    The PSW10 and PSW108 are the same sub, 108 was for European market originally.

    PSW250 is older, and only 8 inch vs 10, but it might actually have slightly better build quality than the others.

    None of them are going to give you any real output below 40hz, they are not very fast or tight, and they will display audible strain if you push them very hard.

    Since you are in Canada, look for used PSB, Energy, and Mirage subs. MUCH higher quality in general. Let us know what you find...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 1,594
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Since you are in Canada, look for used PSB, Energy, and Mirage subs. MUCH higher quality in general. Let us know what you find...

    Agreed
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Definitive Technology BP-2
    DAC North Star Design Supremo
    Source PSA PWT & Oppo 105
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Pre Cary SLP-98 F1
    Center Salk HT2C
    Wires MIT S3.3
    PSA PC AC-12
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,595
    Save your money and look for a better sub. Those will be a disappointment.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • CowTownBartCowTownBart Posts: 6
    Thank you, guys! I'll do that then. Special kudos to @rooftop59, who so far answered all my questions asked on this forum.
  • TurbotaTurbota Posts: 255
    How do you suppose the new Polk HTS (10" or 12") powered subs compare with the PSW line of powered subs ? ?
    2-Channel Audio
    Onkyo ... A-9050 . . .Integrated Amp. (Power Amp Section not Used)
    Onkyo ... M-282 . ... Power Amps .(Pair)
    Onkyo ... C-7030 . _.CD Player
    Polk . . *. RTi A7 - ....Front Speakers
    Polk . . *. RTi A3 - ....Rear Speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,766
    Turbota wrote: »
    How do you suppose the new Polk HTS (10" or 12") powered subs compare with the PSW line of powered subs ? ?

    I would assume they’re a big upgrade. But I would personally look for a good deal on a dsw pro 550 or 660.
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,595
    Polk sub are good value subs if you're spending less than $250 on it. More than that it's HSU or SVS. if you can find them in Canada.

    What kind of deal are you getting on the HTS subs up there?
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,332
    If you’re still looking and there is one nearby, you could get a Velodyne CHT-10 (or 12, not sure if there was a 8 inch version), it plays pretty deep (about 30-25 hertz), and sounds really good too, I should know I have one.
    Other than that, all the suggestions above are great subs, I just thought of this one since... well, I’m looking at it. There are others that are probably better, but I like this, and I think it would be a good choice.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 346
    You can buy a NEW PSW10 from Amazon for $90 shipped (not sure about Canada though).

    https://amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,766
    delkal wrote: »
    You can buy a NEW PSW10 from Amazon for $90 shipped (not sure about Canada though).

    https://amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA

    It barely qualifies as a sub. Almost nothing below 40hz (a good pair of bookies can dig that deep) and it will chuff and distort and very high volumes. It was my first sub so I understand if that’s your budget, but I would take my $ to craigslist first imho...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,332
    edited March 18
    My friend had a PSW10, and we thought it was amazing. Then I got my Velodyne vx-10b, which was twice as powerful and actually sounded good. The Velodyne was around a hundred watts, and I remember me and jace taking apart the PSW10 and the rating on the magnet said it was only like 50 watts.
    I also remember that it had this issue with a plastic piece in the port that would rattle at any volume above halfway (which with that sub, was all the time) so we took it apart and cut it out.
    Long story short, don’t buy it. It’s good if you have to buy new for some reason and you only have a small amount of money, but otherwise, just don’t.
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,332
    I think the PSW505 is on sale for a little over $200 right now, right?
    https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=polk+psw+505&tag=googhydr-20&index=aps&hvadid=177334207358&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6706335338919483801&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011757&hvtargid=kwd-2762595275&ref=pd_sl_42buealjo5_e
    Yep, just found it. Though I did read a few reviews that say it doesn’t sound great, but if you just want your sub to go boom, this is a good option. Heck, even I’m thinking of buying this sub for my basshead moments (come on, you all know you have a few moments where you crank the bass to max to see how many pictures fall and windows break :wink: )
    Micah

    Main system: Technics SL3200, Shure M97xE, Lafayette LR1100 for tuner, Hagerman Audio Labs Bugle 2 phono stage, NAD C352 integrated, Boston Acoustics VR 2, Boston PV500, generic ICs, and BJC Belden speaker cables.

    Desktop: Dell Precision 690 running iTunes, Yamaha RX-v665, Monitor Audio R90s, Velodyne VA-907, generic ICs and speaker cables.
    I've always thought the goal of high-end audio was not to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Turn that darn music down' but to have your neighbors bang on the wall and say, 'Tell your friends to go home and you can practice later this week'.
  • delkaldelkal Posts: 346
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    delkal wrote: »
    You can buy a NEW PSW10 from Amazon for $90 shipped (not sure about Canada though).

    https://amazon.com/Polk-10-Inch-Powered-Subwoofer-Single/dp/B0002KVQBA

    It barely qualifies as a sub. Almost nothing below 40hz (a good pair of bookies can dig that deep) and it will chuff and distort and very high volumes. It was my first sub so I understand if that’s your budget, but I would take my $ to craigslist first imho...

    I agree you can do better. But he was looking to pay $90 for a used one and you can get a new one for the same price. Thats the only reason I "recommended" it.

  • TurbotaTurbota Posts: 255
    The new Polk HTS 10 powered sub is now selling for $300 shipped.

    Continuous Power:
    100 Watts RMS

    Freq. Response:
    30 Hz - 120 Hz

    Dimensions:
    16.5" H x 15.0" W x 18.0" D

    Weight:
    38 Lb.
    2-Channel Audio
    Onkyo ... A-9050 . . .Integrated Amp. (Power Amp Section not Used)
    Onkyo ... M-282 . ... Power Amps .(Pair)
    Onkyo ... C-7030 . _.CD Player
    Polk . . *. RTi A7 - ....Front Speakers
    Polk . . *. RTi A3 - ....Rear Speakers
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,766
    Turbota wrote: »
    The new Polk HTS 10 powered sub is now selling for $300 shipped.

    Continuous Power:
    100 Watts RMS

    Freq. Response:
    30 Hz - 120 Hz

    Dimensions:
    16.5" H x 15.0" W x 18.0" D

    Weight:
    38 Lb.

    Based on driver size and frequency response and price, I would do with a PSW505 if you must go new. Depending on your room and calibration system, it can dig into the low 20s hz. If you are willing to buy used or can DIY, the options will open up quite a bit.
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,595
    For $300 I would save a bit and go to one of these

    http://hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-1mk3.html

    or get a 505. The 505 is a great sub for under $200.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • JaybeezJaybeez Posts: 696
    A bit out of your price range but I have the SE version of this sub and love it for both music and home theater.
    http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649422816-rythmik-f12-subwoofer/
    Living Room (HT):Denon AVR X-3000 ; LSiM 703 ; LSiM 704C ; FXi4s ; Sub – Rhythmik F12SE

    2 Channel Studio: Marantz PM8004 Integrated ; Marantz SA8004 ; Music Hall MMF 7.3TT w/Ortofon Bronze; Schiit Bifrost DAC ; Ascend Acoustics Sierra 2s ; Rythmik F12SE

    "And these children that you spit on, as they try to change their worlds, are immune to your consultations. They're quite aware of what they're going through."
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