Meridian Director USB DAC

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  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    Gotta agree with @clipdat here. This thread was focused mainly on the Meridian and the nuances (audible) of the apodizer filtering used.

    @heiney9 you're way out of line. This is a journey here. Take your own path.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    Moving back on topic.

    @verb if you have a Logitech 2.1 setup, I implore you to replace the Logitech satellites with a pair of the Polk Blackstone TL3 satellites as I just did with my Klipsch Promedia setup. Let me know if your sub's plate amplifier has standard wiring!

    Once I get my Amazon credit back, I'm still going to be in the market for a USB powered DAC. I've already tried the Audioquest Dragonly 1.0, Dragonfly Red, and HRT Music Streamer HD.

    I'd love to hear other suggestions of USB powered DACs I should consider.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    I will. I missed out on your smokin deal the other day.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    Yeah, looks like $100/each is the current going rate. They do pop up on eBay from time to time as well.
    verb wrote: »
    I will. I missed out on your smokin deal the other day.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,692
    edited March 2018
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Why on Earth would someone spend $350 to listen to 320kbps MP3's? That's crazy. My guess is the Meridian brought to the forefront the flaws of the source material and it was unpleasant. MP3's are unpleasant.

    This post is on topic and on target.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,112
    edited March 2018
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will. If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment.
    F1nut wrote: »
    This post is on topic and on target.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    You actually did, because I did spend $350. So therefore I'm "crazy" which is defined as "mentally deranged; demented; insane.".
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Why on Earth would someone spend $350 to listen to 320kbps MP3's? That's crazy.
    heiney9 wrote: »
    It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will.

    It's kindof amusing how wrong you are. Again, way to miss the entire point of this thread which is the apodizing filter. I guess just continue to see red mist when you read the word "mp3" and get behind your keyboard to exert your superiority.

    Unfortunately all you are doing is exerting a lot of ignorance instead.
    heiney9 wrote: »
    If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 5,633
    I am insane but I wouldn't do that
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,692
    Apodizing filter or not, trying to make 320kbps MP3's sound good by using a quality DAC is going to result in disappointment. So why bother, which is the point.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    I don't know Jesse, instead can you tell me what the point is of people shitposting in my DAC review thread and turning it into a mp3 vs. FLAC vs. whatever debate?

    Is me kindly asking people who feel like critiquing my source material to simply move on not enough of a deterrent to keep them from posting? Do I need to put a disclaimer in huge bold font at the beginning of my posts that say "Tests conducted with 320kbps mp3s, if this bothers you, stop reading now and go find a different thread to post in."?
    F1nut wrote: »
    Apodizing filter or not, trying to make 320kbps MP3's sound good by using a quality DAC is going to result in disappointment. So why bother, which is the point.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    edited March 2018
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will. If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.

    You sir @heiney9 have ZERO tact. Feel free to continue to be an ARSE if you'd like.
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,887
    This thread is hilarious!
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  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 1,280
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    This thread is hilarious!

    More like painful
    2 Channel - Major reduction complete

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,692
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I don't know Jesse, instead can you tell me what the point is of people shitposting in my DAC review thread and turning it into a mp3 vs. FLAC vs. whatever debate?

    Is me kindly asking people who feel like critiquing my source material to simply move on not enough of a deterrent to keep them from posting? Do I need to put a disclaimer in huge bold font at the beginning of my posts that say "Tests conducted with 320kbps mp3s, if this bothers you, stop reading now and go find a different thread to post in."?
    F1nut wrote: »
    Apodizing filter or not, trying to make 320kbps MP3's sound good by using a quality DAC is going to result in disappointment. So why bother, which is the point.

    No one turned this thread into one format verses another. It was merely pointed out that trying to polish a t u r d is a waste of time and money. In fact, if you hadn't made such a big deal about a comment or two the thread may have continued on or died. Instead, it's turned into a mess. You cannot dictate what someone can post. However, if it's something so offensive to you that you won't be able to sleep, you have the option to report it.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,692
    verb wrote: »
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will. If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.

    You sir @heiney9 have ZERO tact. Feel free to continue to be an ARSE if you'd like.

    I disagree. Brock is a long time, very knowledgeable member. Show some respect.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    Actually, that's exactly what happened when within 12 minutes of my post where I simply mentioned 320s.
    F1nut wrote: »
    No one turned this thread into one format verses another.

    Calling the personal choices someone makes on their audio journey a "waste of time and money" is extremely judgemental, and a great way to alienate new members.
    F1nut wrote: »
    It was merely pointed out that trying to polish a t u r d is a waste of time and money.

    I'm not sure how politely and respectfully asking people to withhold commentary regarding my choice of source is "making such a big deal".
    F1nut wrote: »
    In fact, if you hadn't made such a big deal about a comment or two the thread may have continued on or died. Instead, it's turned into a mess.

    Nope, I can only politely ask for them to refrain. If they don't, then it only serves to make them look immature and uneducated.
    F1nut wrote: »
    You cannot dictate what someone can post.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    edited March 2018
    I have no doubt about the knowledgeable folks here on CP. Heck that's why I'm here. To learn. And to have a few yucks along the way!

    But as CP members, old and new, we have a responsibility to treat everyone equally with respect. It starts with messaging and tactfulness. There are many ways to guide folks to the promised land. Not just with a sledgehammer.

    I have only been here a short while. Even with my relatively short journey, I have seen other newbies that are newer than me dip their toes in and get pounced by others. Is that what we represent? Heck even a few of the recent newbies never came back, IIRC because they got pounced on.

    Differences of opinion are great. And abundant here on CP. The debate is great, can be great, but will generally result in your recipient not taking your advice if you are not tactful.



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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    I have no problem with people sharing their opinion, I've learned a lot that way on this forum. What I have a problem with is people presenting their personal opinions as the "truth" or "fact" like this:
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will. If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.

    verb wrote: »
    Differences of opinion are great. And abundant here on CP. The debate is great, can be great, but will always result in your recipient not taking your advice if you are not tactful.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    edited March 2018
    Replaced always with generally based on my experience! :smiley:
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  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,455
    Just wow, maybe not be so easily offended??
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    I never said the word "offended", or "offensive".

    First time it was said is by you just now, and by Jesse up above.
    vmaxer wrote: »
    Just wow, maybe not be so easily offended??

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,251
    I'm listening. Please continue.

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  • verbverb Posts: 7,652
    Intermission? Gotta get a beer before the play starts up again!
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,692
    edited March 2018
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I have no problem with people sharing their opinion, I've learned a lot that way on this forum. What I have a problem with is people presenting their personal opinions as the "truth" or "fact" like this:
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Just telling you the truth. Sorry it doesn't exactly align with your thoughts. It needed to be said as that's why a computer sound card sounds better against a regarded dac. It's a fact. I in no way attacked you personally. I believe I'm free to comment, and I will. If you continue to use MP3's as a source and pairing it with audiophile type gear you will get the same outcome.

    verb wrote: »
    Differences of opinion are great. And abundant here on CP. The debate is great, can be great, but will always result in your recipient not taking your advice if you are not tactful.

    Wow, just wow........I tried, I'm out.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,138
    You're finally leaving this thread?! I thought the only way to go away is to say "Jesse, you're right and I'm wrong!"
    F1nut wrote: »
    Wow, just wow........I tried, I'm out.

    You're real clever John, how long did it take you to come up with that witty masterpiece?

    I also tested the DAC this morning with .wav files and I noticed the same phase shifting ear fatiguing sensation from the apodizing filter. So can you guys stop foaming at the mouth now?
    I was watching reruns of I Love Lucy on my 70” 4K Sony, and for some reason, the picture quality sucks. Must be something horribly wrong with the Sony. The Honeymooners looks even worse, as it is completely unwatchable on the 4K... what a waste of money.

    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
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