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tonyb
tonyb Posts: 32,962
in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
Opinions please....Which sub would do justice in a HT/MUSIC system with bookies. My subwoofer experience is lacking these days. Don't throw out SVS as they are out of the ballpark.

Velo cht-10
Paradigm ps1000
Dayton 1200
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds

Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

Kitchen

Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,283
    I used to own a Velodyne

    The front firing CHt-10 would be my vote
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    How big is the space?
    2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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  • gmcman
    gmcman Posts: 1,806
    I have had this sub for quite some time but I really enjoyed my Mirage FRX-S10 when I had the RT800's as my main speakers. Not boomy at all and paired well for music. Also had plenty of punch for HT when properly placed.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    hochpt21 wrote: »
    How big is the space?

    24 by 26....hence my concern on too small a sub. Larger sized sub and less watts, or smaller sub with bigger power Like a Def tech or Sunfire JR.

    The Velo cht-10 I'm pretty sure would do fine for music, the HT side though, it may have trouble in a room that big.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,283
    Agree, wasn't thinking HT, just a little umph for 2chnl
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,503
    If it's one sub for everything, I would go smaller sub with more power every time. Of the options you listed, I'd do the CHT-10. What's your budget?
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  • hochpt21
    hochpt21 Posts: 5,423
    edited November 2017
    Black Friday Deal..


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    2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    All the subs I mentioned can be had for around 100 bucks, I can go 200 maybe. Which is why I said SVS is out.

    Also saw a Mirage ps-12-90, which gets good reviews but I'm skeptical of bigger woofers and weak power, spells muddy bass notes to me.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    I'll look around Ken, thanks for the suggestion.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    This one came up, but Def tech subs are usually either people love 'em or hate 'em.

    https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/d/definitive-technology/6398192822.html

    The Piano Black would match the speakers though.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,013
    I have the smaller SC3 in the home office. Pretty amazing for its size, but the room's just 11ft square. I just checked to see what level it's at - around 1pm on the volume knob, so, pushing it a bit. Put me in the love-it camp.

    SC2 would be even better, and I think it was not affected by the amp issues the SC3 had.

    Got any used HSUs in the area?
    The STF-2 might be an available good bang-for-buck. Doesn't have the extra tuning options of the higher level series subs, and may be a little loose for you, but it can pressurize an 11x15 space with room to spare at just the 10 o'clock volume position.

    Coupla thoughts.
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    Maybe look for a used Velo Impact 12? Good reviews for both music and HT.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,413
    How about a REL T5... the high level input allows for seamless blending to whatever speaker you are using. I have the S5 and love it.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    How about a REL T5... the high level input allows for seamless blending to whatever speaker you are using. I have the S5 and love it.

    Think older subs John, a Rel T-5 for 200 bucks would be a find.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,413
    edited November 2017
    I found one for under 400... :p

    There are a couple Q108’s on EBay now under 200 bucks.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,413
    Also a Klipche r10sw in Napierville
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    That ones on my list Skip thanks.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,503
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Also a Klipche r10sw in Napierville

    If you can find an RSW10D, that's a find. That sub is STOUT. Make sure it's the "D" model. They go for around $300 used...
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,413
    The one I found was listed at 250.00
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    DSkip wrote: »
    Honestly Tony, the Chicago market is ripe with flipping potential. Might not be a bad time to play that market if you can. Craigslist right now is where the DFW list was about 4 years ago. Everything has dried up in these parts.

    Indeed it is Skip, I'm looking for direction from sub users so I can weed out the sloppy/slow or muddy sounding ones.

    The criteria is,
    Movie /music use
    Room size of 24 by 26
    Smaller size due to placement issues.

    .....and of course budget around 200...maybe 3 if I push it some.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,413
    tonyb wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    How about a REL T5... the high level input allows for seamless blending to whatever speaker you are using. I have the S5 and love it.

    Think older subs John, a Rel T-5 for 200 bucks would be a find.

    There is a REL T5 on Audiogon for 195.00 B)
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    How about a REL T5... the high level input allows for seamless blending to whatever speaker you are using. I have the S5 and love it.

    Think older subs John, a Rel T-5 for 200 bucks would be a find.

    There is a REL T5 on Audiogon for 195.00 B)

    While that is a very nice deal and would make a great office or bedroom sub, it is TINY and -6db@32, not exactly what @tonyb is looking for to fill his large room. Someone else, however, might want to jump on this deal!
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Already got a sub gents, an SVS SB-2000, which is working out beautifully.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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