Beautiful speakers.
I love finding older rare speakers in great condition or close to it.
The instrumental " Riviera Paradise " by Stevie Ray Vaughn you played in your video was a song I used for years as a demo to show off Polk Audio speakers and some other kinds once in a while. But that instrumental on my SDA-SRS2"s is PHENOMINAL or SPECTACULAR ! People would ALWAYS ask me after playing it, "Who is that again and the name of it ?" It's a very, very well recorded instrumental !!
Thanks Tony!
Finding old rare old speaker and restore them its rewarding.
I also think the "Riviera Paradise" by Stevie is an great performance and tasfuly recorded, great player and track. There is a plephora of playing style nuances and overtones i use as reference when listening gear.
I found a pair of these in the local thrift store for $16 about 2 years ago. They were in near perfect shape. I used Feed-n-Wax to polish them up and now they look perfect. Great sounding speakers and a real work of art. I added feet to them to get a solid stance.
Not much to find on the www about them and everything I have seen is posted here.
I have purchased 4 cheap Goldwood GW-8028 ($25) to temporarily replace the original drivers while those are being restored. The mentioned earlier the cabinets are closed and Frequency response is 38-24,000Hz, crossed over and divided at 1750Hz.
I was not expecting much from these but surprisingly it performed really well. Great synergy with the original peerless tweeters and Marantz 2270. The sound is on the warm side but has a very pleasant vintage vibe to it.
Question is, it will sound like heresy, but could this be superior to the original vintage drivers?
Product Specifications
Nominal Diameter8"
Power Handling (RMS)100 Watts
Power Handling (max)190 Watts
Impedance8 ohms
Frequency Response25 to 6,000 Hz
Sensitivity84 dB 2.83V/1m
Voice Coil Diameter1.5"
Magnet Weight20 oz.
Thiele-Small Parameters
Resonant Frequency (Fs)36 HzDC
Resistance (Re)7.2 ohms
Voice Coil Inductance (Le)0.5 mH
Mechanical Q (Qms)3.9
Electromagnetic Q (Qes)1.21Total Q (Qts)0.92
Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.54 ft.³
Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.73 mm/N
BL Product (BL)6 Tm
Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)26.9g
Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)2.5 mm
Surface Area of Cone (Sd)218.2 cm²
Materials of Construction
Cone MaterialPolySurround MaterialRubber
Basket / Frame MaterialSteelMagnet MaterialFerrite
Mounting Information
Overall Outside Diameter8"
Baffle Cutout Diameter7.25"
Depth3.625"# Mounting Holes4
Optimum Cabinet Size (determined using BassBox 6 Pro High Fidelity suggestion)
Sealed Volume1.85 ft.³Sealed F341 Hz
Vented Volume7.34 ft.³Vented F323 Hz
I used Goldwoods on a bunch of speakers and one set of AR's or Advent's they sounded GREAT!
I got a few compliments on their sound too. Hated to sell them. But the new owner called me back and said they sounded FANTASTIC in his home. He thanked me again!
I know originals are designed with the whole speaker parts designed as a whole. But in this case and my own experience years ago, I think cheap Goldwoods are GREAT cheap replacements sometimes.
This is COOL!
Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
I hear you! $25 each really?! Madison speaker recomended this based on the speaker specs and cabinet volume... listening Diana Krall as I type and it sounds beautifully.
My husband loved them but he’s passed away. I’m downsizing and deciding what to sell. Thank you
You can search sites such as eBay and HiFi Shark for past sale prices to get an idea.
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I really like this speakers, knowing how they’re built and sound I would pay up to $250 for a nice pair.
With that said, the real depends on how bad someone wants it. Where are you located?
I just got a pair of these and LOVE the look, but I'm still trying to get them to sound as good as they look.
I'm now to the hi-fi game and these are currently my "best pair" , bit I love my Zenith MC 4000s and a pair of 1990 sansusi's that are insane and built like a tank just black and dull to look at.
I see you changed the drivers. Do they feel "boomy" or are you still happy with the modern Goldwoods? I know the tweeters and the cabinets are the big deal.
.. I used a solen cap and regret it , so harsh. I have other 8uf caps on order, but I also think about swapping in a modern prebuilt or try to build a new crossover. could this hardware support an MTM crossover?
I want these to sound as amazing as they look.. people gush as how sexy they look. not so much the sound yet.
I just got a pair of these and LOVE the look, but I'm still trying to get them to sound as good as they look.
I'm now to the hi-fi game and these are currently my "best pair" , bit I love my Zenith MC 4000s and a pair of 1990 sansusi's that are insane and built like a tank just black and dull to look at.
I see you changed the drivers. Do they feel "boomy" or are you still happy with the modern Goldwoods? I know the tweeters and the cabinets are the big deal.
.. I used a solen cap and regret it , so harsh. I have other 8uf caps on order, but I also think about swapping in a modern prebuilt or try to build a new crossover. could this hardware support an MTM crossover?
I want these to sound as amazing as they look.. people gush as how sexy they look. not so much the sound yet.
Yes, they look really nice, better than what they sound, sure. But don’t sound bad either, maybe a bit bommy. Mine are retired inside a closet after I set up a new system, they don’t make sense anymore. Wasn’t able/ not worth to sell it, the new tweeters alone where about $100, plus sonicaps, woofers, etc.... not sure what to do with it.
Thanks, cortico (and others) for all the information you put into this thread. I am finally getting around to restoring a pair that I found at the thrift store a couple years ago. Today I lightly sanded the tops and applied Danish oil. They had obviously been used as plant stands, but now they look fantastic. On one, the particle board swivel base had been exposed to water and swelled up, so I'm shaving it down and filling in chips and voids before I paint the bases. I think my tweeters are both bad, but the 8" speakers all seem to be firing quite well. I will check the caps you replaced before proceeding (mine both say "Minerva" like your 8uf original). Again, I really appreciate all the information in this thread!
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Thanks Tony!
Finding old rare old speaker and restore them its rewarding.
I also think the "Riviera Paradise" by Stevie is an great performance and tasfuly recorded, great player and track. There is a plephora of playing style nuances and overtones i use as reference when listening gear.
"Frequency response of 38-24,000Hz, frequencies are crossed over and divided at 1750Hz in 12 Db per Octave segments"
Thank you for the kind words!
Not much to find on the www about them and everything I have seen is posted here.
I have purchased 4 cheap Goldwood GW-8028 ($25) to temporarily replace the original drivers while those are being restored. The mentioned earlier the cabinets are closed and Frequency response is 38-24,000Hz, crossed over and divided at 1750Hz.
I was not expecting much from these but surprisingly it performed really well. Great synergy with the original peerless tweeters and Marantz 2270. The sound is on the warm side but has a very pleasant vintage vibe to it.
Question is, it will sound like heresy, but could this be superior to the original vintage drivers?
Product Specifications
Nominal Diameter8"
Power Handling (RMS)100 Watts
Power Handling (max)190 Watts
Impedance8 ohms
Frequency Response25 to 6,000 Hz
Sensitivity84 dB 2.83V/1m
Voice Coil Diameter1.5"
Magnet Weight20 oz.
Thiele-Small Parameters
Resonant Frequency (Fs)36 HzDC
Resistance (Re)7.2 ohms
Voice Coil Inductance (Le)0.5 mH
Mechanical Q (Qms)3.9
Electromagnetic Q (Qes)1.21Total Q (Qts)0.92
Compliance Equivalent Volume (Vas)1.54 ft.³
Mechanical Compliance of Suspension (Cms)0.73 mm/N
BL Product (BL)6 Tm
Diaphragm Mass Inc. Airload (Mms)26.9g
Maximum Linear Excursion (Xmax)2.5 mm
Surface Area of Cone (Sd)218.2 cm²
Materials of Construction
Cone MaterialPolySurround MaterialRubber
Basket / Frame MaterialSteelMagnet MaterialFerrite
Mounting Information
Overall Outside Diameter8"
Baffle Cutout Diameter7.25"
Depth3.625"# Mounting Holes4
Optimum Cabinet Size (determined using BassBox 6 Pro High Fidelity suggestion)
Sealed Volume1.85 ft.³Sealed F341 Hz
Vented Volume7.34 ft.³Vented F323 Hz
I got a few compliments on their sound too. Hated to sell them. But the new owner called me back and said they sounded FANTASTIC in his home. He thanked me again!
I know originals are designed with the whole speaker parts designed as a whole. But in this case and my own experience years ago, I think cheap Goldwoods are GREAT cheap replacements sometimes.
This is COOL!
.06 on the dollar.
You can search sites such as eBay and HiFi Shark for past sale prices to get an idea.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I really like this speakers, knowing how they’re built and sound I would pay up to $250 for a nice pair.
With that said, the real depends on how bad someone wants it. Where are you located?
I'm now to the hi-fi game and these are currently my "best pair" , bit I love my Zenith MC 4000s and a pair of 1990 sansusi's that are insane and built like a tank just black and dull to look at.
I see you changed the drivers. Do they feel "boomy" or are you still happy with the modern Goldwoods? I know the tweeters and the cabinets are the big deal.
.. I used a solen cap and regret it , so harsh. I have other 8uf caps on order, but I also think about swapping in a modern prebuilt or try to build a new crossover. could this hardware support an MTM crossover?
I want these to sound as amazing as they look.. people gush as how sexy they look. not so much the sound yet.
Yes, they look really nice, better than what they sound, sure. But don’t sound bad either, maybe a bit bommy. Mine are retired inside a closet after I set up a new system, they don’t make sense anymore. Wasn’t able/ not worth to sell it, the new tweeters alone where about $100, plus sonicaps, woofers, etc.... not sure what to do with it.