2nd epik empire amp failed

beaglehead12
beaglehead12 Posts: 80
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I know. I got what I paid for. So i invested 200.00 for the first amp repair and dont feel like repairing another piece of junk at the same price if not more. Does anyone have any recommendations for replacements? What about an inuke nu3000dsp .Could this be A fairly easy swap? Does anyone know if this will handle 2 subs adequately ? Thanks
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
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    There seems to be a poster on the Klipsch forum who has repaired his amp. If you do a Google search you can spot it. Other than that I guess replace it with another company's amp.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
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    Don't those have eq in them? If that's the case an after market amp won't work properly unless u also add an eq, which might render it cost prohibitive. Maybe time to move on if u can't get or fixed. Sorry...
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
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    Honestly your best cheapest bet is either find a similarly powered plate amp and just drop it in to replace the bad one (may require some modifications to the box).

    There was probably a bit of EQ built into the plate amp from the OEM but you may not notice a difference with a Dayton plate amp.

    If you go with a pro amp you may still be fine as the Empire is a dual opposed sealed sub so you don't need a highpass. You'd just seal up the hole from the plate amp you removed, and seal it with a piece of MDF/Plywood and then have either a single or dual binding post connecting to the drivers...
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  • EndersShadow
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    Where are you located beagle?
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  • WLDock
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    Man $200 bucks to repair a sub amp? Seems steep. The repair was probably only an output chip and caps....$10-$20 in parts plus an hour of labor. One can get a 500 watt plate amp for $200. Anyway, if you like the sub then maybe keep it alive. Something like that today is going to cost a little bit.....even if you went the DIY route. So, just get a cheap pro amp like the iNuke. However, I don't agree with removing the original amp. I've seen many do this and they are throwing away a perfectly sized plate. My advice is to remove the wires on the back side of the terminals feeding the amp. Then, cut the wires coming from the subs and land them on the terminals. Now, the plate can be put back and now you have a wired passive sub. Just, wire your external amp to the terminals on the plate.

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
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    @WLDock

    You mean the speaker input terminals? If thats what your talking about I dont think the Epik has those..... I think its just RCA or XLR inputs and thats it.

    So he'd need to work around that at min....

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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
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    Ah, no speaker terminals but XLR's. If he goes with the iNuke the XLR terminals could be removed and replaced with a Speakon terminal. Then run a Speakon cable from the amps outputs to the subs new Speakon inputs wired direct to the subs ( bypassing the dead amp). Great 2nd life use of the amp plate!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,564
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    Great idea
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
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    I agree, my only concern would be making sure to set the limiter (if using the inuke), or the gain appropriately to ensure the drivers aren't toasted when you crank the volume....

    That and the decision on if you wire the drivers together or seperate, though that depends on how they are wired internally and how many voicecoils per sub...

    Personally I'd rip out the amp, use it as a template for a new piece of wood, throw on a layer of duratex (think they used that on the back), and install a speak on connector and call it a day.

    Yes more work but IMHO a cleaner result, plus then you could tinker w the plate amp to see if you could get it running again....
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