Want to stick my toe in the "power cord" pool...
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Always!"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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Now this has me thinking...is my setup good enough to warrant an upgrade in form of a power cable? Im running b&k gear through 1.2tls, what do you guys think?
Do it, and build your own. I doubt you'll regret it.
Either consult @helipilotdoug by PMing him or going to his website for his business Douglas Connection. He'll give you sound advice and a 10% discount just for being a member of Club Polk!
Or, if it fits your budget, purchase a sufficient length of Furutech FP-3T762 power cable and a Wattgate Evo plugs and build your own. Of course, there are lots of other options that are more or less costly, but I'm tempted to build a couple of power cords out of these materials now because I've convinced myself that I need them!
I built several of my own power cords with the best components I could fit within my budget and received the benefits of better sound quality and satisfaction with having done the work. I also had little choice about building my own for my preamp, DAC and transport because of the peculiarities of my installation.
Good luck!Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
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I think I have a few older Shunyata's laying around, let me check.
I apologize, but, I misspoke. I have several older Tributaries power cables laying around. A 3footer, 2 6 fwet and 2 12 foot 15 amp, probably 12 guage cables. If you're interested PM me and I'll sell them pretty darn cheap.
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I think I have a few older Shunyata's laying around, let me check.
I apologize, but, I misspoke. I have several older Tributaries power cables laying around. A 3footer, 2 6 fwet and 2 12 foot 15 amp, probably 12 guage cables. If you're interested PM me and I'll sell them pretty darn cheap.
Wowsa. Wish I had a few extra bucks so I could snatch the lot lol....
"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
I think I have a few older Shunyata's laying around, let me check.
I apologize, but, I misspoke. I have several older Tributaries power cables laying around. A 3footer, 2 6 fwet and 2 12 foot 15 amp, probably 12 guage cables. If you're interested PM me and I'll sell them pretty darn cheap.
Pm sentLiving Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Pm sent also
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I'm not sure on my pricing as I can't recall what I paid for them so let me know if you think they're out of line.
12ft $100 each
6ft $75 each
3ft. $50
$325 for all of them.
If you think I'm out of line on price let me know.
Kerry -
$rednedtugent was first to respond with interest in a 12ft
@rooftop59 2nd
@EndersShadow 3rd
@Gerres26 4th
@pitdogg2 5th
These were part of a purchase I made and we're basically a little "gravy" thrown over top for only a little more money.
I will gift these one per respondent in order mentioned above. You pay for shipping. Respond with the one size you'd like and I'll give my PP info. PP gift it and the cords are yours.
Kerry -
On the flexibility scale they aren't as flexible as the AC-3, however, they are more flexible than Pangea.
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Thats pretty awesome!! I was looking for a 6footer myself...pm sent again
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Went to FedEx today and will have to try USPS tomorrow.
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All the cords got mailed out today via FedEx ground. Should arrive either Thursday or Friday depending on your location. Enjoy.
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All the cords got mailed out today via FedEx ground. Should arrive either Thursday or Friday depending on your location. Enjoy.
Thank you sir. I'm thinking about throwing something out on the forum as a Karma in response to your generosity.
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A McIntosh MC275??? -
I just upchucked
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Is that like upfunding a night on the town of drinking?
I just upchucked
It's all coming together
toe in power cord pool | Russ's toe nails | Electricity | darker black paint
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EndersShadow wrote: »
A McIntosh MC275???
LOL... sorry my gear closet isnt that full of goodies....
Will start a Karma thread on it here in a bit."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Time to rethink my power set up...
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I received the MIT AC-1 from Greg several days ago, but due to a hectic work schedule at the moment, didn't get time to implement it and listen until last night.
I will cut right to the chase and say yes - I CAN hear a difference. It is subtle, but it is undeniable. I swapped back and forth several times, to verify what I was hearing, and it is there. Specifically, the opening of Fleetwood Mac's Gold Dust Woman, when the cymbal joins the tambourine - the separation between the two sounds is greatly improved with the MIT cord. Also, on Chris Rea's Road to Hell, the space around his voice in the opening, and the clarity of the bass guitar in pt2 are very much improved with the MIT.
This is difficult for me to admit, because I have been a d**k on the issue of power cords in the past. I guess it just comes down to the fact that just because it doesn't make sense, or I can't explain it, doesn't mean it's not there. I hereby apologize to anyone that I may have offended in the past, with my narrow-minded views. And as always, thank you for the guidance and advice. I will be upgrading the rest of my cords as finances allow. Much more listening to come!"Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
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Good fir you, thanks for the update.Pio Elete Pro 520
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I received the MIT AC-1 from Greg several days ago, but due to a hectic work schedule at the moment, didn't get time to implement it and listen until last night.
I will cut right to the chase and say yes - I CAN hear a difference. It is subtle, but it is undeniable. I swapped back and forth several times, to verify what I was hearing, and it is there. Specifically, the opening of Fleetwood Mac's Gold Dust Woman, when the cymbal joins the tambourine - the separation between the two sounds is greatly improved with the MIT cord. Also, on Chris Rea's Road to Hell, the space around his voice in the opening, and the clarity of the bass guitar in pt2 are very much improved with the MIT.
This is difficult for me to admit, because I have been a d**k on the issue of power cords in the past. I guess it just comes down to the fact that just because it doesn't make sense, or I can't explain it, doesn't mean it's not there. I hereby apologize to anyone that I may have offended in the past, with my narrow-minded views. And as always, thank you for the guidance and advice. I will be upgrading the rest of my cords as finances allow. Much more listening to come!
For what it's worth, I have found the biggest audio improvement cable wise has been from power cords and power conditioning gear. At first this was just a WTF insight, but as I have learned more I more I realize it makes sense. Basically, it is the ability to deal with instantaneous current, and noise filtration.
Read the Shunyata technical articles to learn more.
http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/support/faqs
http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/support/technical-articles/2017-technology-guide
http://www.shunyata.com/index.php/support/videosLumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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I received the MIT AC-1 from Greg several days ago, but due to a hectic work schedule at the moment, didn't get time to implement it and listen until last night.
I will cut right to the chase and say yes - I CAN hear a difference. It is subtle, but it is undeniable. I swapped back and forth several times, to verify what I was hearing, and it is there. Specifically, the opening of Fleetwood Mac's Gold Dust Woman, when the cymbal joins the tambourine - the separation between the two sounds is greatly improved with the MIT cord. Also, on Chris Rea's Road to Hell, the space around his voice in the opening, and the clarity of the bass guitar in pt2 are very much improved with the MIT.
This is difficult for me to admit, because I have been a d**k on the issue of power cords in the past. I guess it just comes down to the fact that just because it doesn't make sense, or I can't explain it, doesn't mean it's not there. I hereby apologize to anyone that I may have offended in the past, with my narrow-minded views. And as always, thank you for the guidance and advice. I will be upgrading the rest of my cords as finances allow. Much more listening to come!
Keep an open mind, try a few different things along the way and you'll expand your musical enjoyment. Too many have closed minds, closed opinions on what will have an effect on their sound. Everything matters in the chain, to some degree.
Kudo's to you for trying, even if you didn't hear a difference at least you tried, and that is the name of the game.HT SYSTEM-
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Exactly, you tried it and it made a difference to your ears and that is all that matters. I too, learned from this forum that AC cords make a difference even when I thought, nah... they can't. Yes, they can.Music: Oppo103 - Parasound JC2 - Parasound A21- SDA 3.1
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Dammit! I didn't need to read this. Especially since I've discovered that good (read expensive) interconnects and speaker cables do in fact make an audible difference.
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...Now, how do you feel about digital cables?
There's no way a digital cable can make a difference - I mean it's just passing 1s and 0s, right? Right...?
Seriously, my mind is open to the possibility now - my wallet thanks you..."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
I have both entry level Wireworld and Pangea. After I'm done with the speaker cable tour I could send you one or both to try out if you want so you'd only be out shipping if you don't think they're worth it. Offer is on the table.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Pm sent."Conservative Libertarians love the country, progressive leftists love the government." - Andrew Wilkow
“Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn -
It makes perfect sense and now maybe with an open mind you can understand it more. Kudos to you for admitting the results honestly.
I too didn't want them to make a difference but I would be lying to myself if I said they didn't. It's undeniable once you hear it.
Now, how do you feel about digital cables?
Skip, I was prepared to resell the Wireworld cables I purchased from you at a loss just so I could say I had tried them and finally could say with 100% certainty that they didn't really make much difference. I liked them so much I upgraded the IC's to the next level.
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On a side note, I've never liked the term 'noise' when it comes to audio. The perception is that it is something you can hear. It is actually quite the opposite. You never hear it, but it's damned clear when it's gone that it was there.
You have to remember that a lot of older guys here don't have the hearing acuity of someone like you with young ears. Unfortunately, it happens to all of us. Super tweeters? Ya, right.
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