Attention: Furutech Flattener Consortium members

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,029
in 2 Channel Audio
Hello all,

It has been quite some time since the LP flattener club took off and at the time, my vinyl rig did not warrant getting into the club. Well, I am at that point now along my audio Journey. My LP collection has doubled since this club started and I have some valuable gems I'd like to flatten.

Here's my question.....Is this open to old school Polk members to buy into the rotation or is it a closed group (as was being discussed behind closed doors with me) when this all started?

I am expressing interest in buying into the group, if any or all of you can collectively come to a decision to allow someone else to join in after all of these years (I should have bit the bullet and joined way back in the day).

It has been so long since this went down, I completely forgot who was in the group. So I figured I'd just make a post and I'll find out in short order.

Anyhoo, please let me know. Thanks.

Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    edited April 2017
    Me, Carl (schwarcw), Ted (reeltrouble1), Ricardo, Joe (hearingimpared) are all I can think of right now. I had a spreadsheet of the entire group a couple PC’s ago where we would track its location. I would have to try and locate it. I have no idea who has it now or who had it last.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    10-4. Just keep me posted.

    Thanks,

    Tom

    PS - Holy moly dude! Your system......Very nice my man. Very nice.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    I can assure you Uncle Jesse is not in that club.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,020
    Uncle Jesse has a secret vinyl room.
    All the gear in there uses cables he bought at Home Depot.
    Says it's his favorite setup.
    I disabled signatures.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    I have a vinyl fence...will it help with that? Lol!
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    I am also part of the original group. The last movement of it I have recorded is from me to schwarcw in October of 2014. If I had to guess it's probably still there. It does remind me though that I would like to have some time with it again. But not in a big hurry. lol Obviously.
    HT
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    So I found an old copy of the spreadsheet. Here are all the original members:
    reeltrouble1
    madmax
    Kenneth Swauger
    hearingimpared
    schwarcw
    SCompRacer
    cmy330go
    Ricardo
    Polk65

    Being mostly a lurker for the past several years, I'm not even sure how many are still here/active. Well except for Madmax RIP. :'(
    HT
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    2 CH
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,285
    You can scratch hearingimpared
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    You can scratch hearingimpared

    I saw that he was banned. Does it go beyond that? I mean...Is he still with us (so to speak)?
    HT
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    2 CH
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    madmax passed? Oh my. I missed that. RIP brother. I was wondering why I haven't seen him post in a while. That's just sad.

    Yeah, I think we all know about Hearing Impaired. Hope life is getting back on track for him. He was headed toward a dark place last I heard...

    Tom
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    cmy330go wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    You can scratch hearingimpared

    I saw that he was banned. Does it go beyond that? I mean...Is he still with us (so to speak)?

    AFAIK he is. I don't know anyone who could confirm this though.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    treitz3 wrote: »
    madmax passed? Oh my. I missed that. RIP brother. I was wondering why I haven't seen him post in a while. That's just sad.

    Yeah, I think we all know about Hearing Impaired. Hope life is getting back on track for him. He was headed toward a dark place last I heard...

    Tom

    Yea. Can't remember how long ago, but feel like it was in the last year(ish). Which by my memory could be anywhere between 1-5years. :/

    So what happened with Hearingimpaired? Guess I totally missed that. I'd had a fair number of direct conversations with him, and he always seemed to be a pretty kind, and calm dude. Was really surprised to see him banned. If the powers-that-be will mind, and you don't mind taking the time, shoot me a PM about it. No pressure.
    HT
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    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Hello all,

    It has been quite some time since the LP flattener club took off and at the time, my vinyl rig did not warrant getting into the club. Well, I am at that point now along my audio Journey. My LP collection has doubled since this club started and I have some valuable gems I'd like to flatten.

    Here's my question.....Is this open to old school Polk members to buy into the rotation or is it a closed group (as was being discussed behind closed doors with me) when this all started?

    I am expressing interest in buying into the group, if any or all of you can collectively come to a decision to allow someone else to join in after all of these years (I should have bit the bullet and joined way back in the day).

    It has been so long since this went down, I completely forgot who was in the group. So I figured I'd just make a post and I'll find out in short order.

    Anyhoo, please let me know. Thanks.

    Tom

    Just emailed schwarcw to inquire of whereabouts, and also hopefully spark a discussion with everyone about what they would like to do regarding the flattener and the consortium for that matter.

    I'll keep you posted.
    HT
    Mits WD-65737, DirecTV, Oppo DV-970HD, XBOX ONE, Yamaha RX-A1030, Parasound Halo A23, Rotel RB-985, Music Hall MMF-7, Parasound PPH-100, LSi-15, LSi-C, LSi-FX, LSi-7, PSW-1000, Monster HTS2600

    2 CH
    Parasound Halo P3, Parasound Halo A21, Sutherland Ph.D, VPI Classic 3 w/ 3D arm & Soundsmith Aida Cartridge, Arcam CD72T, B&W 802 S3, Monster HTS2500,
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    Thank you sir.

    Please keep me posted. CMY, I can't remember how long ago either.2,4,6 years ago...

    Tom
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    Greetings all!

    I was the last person to have the flattener in my possession. Last year the flattener was no longer functioning and Furutech suggested replacing the unit because parts were not available.

    The unit has a very busy first year or two. Interest waned, people got banned. The flattener did not see much use in the last years of use. I think Reeltrouble and Dave were the last to have it. I used it a couple times after Dave returned it. A year or so later, it was just not heating up. It has a good life and served many of us well.

    I understand this unit works pretty well: http://vinylflat.com/vinylflatproducts.html

    Carl

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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    treitz3 wrote: »
    cmy330go wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    You can scratch hearingimpared

    I saw that he was banned. Does it go beyond that? I mean...Is he still with us (so to speak)?

    AFAIK he is. I don't know anyone who could confirm this though.

    Tom

    I see him on Facebook at times.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    That's good to know. Thank you for the update. I personally have zero beef with the man but I have heard rumors over the years that didn't reflect well on him. I'll try to look him up. It's been years since we last spoke.

    On a different note, since the original Furutech has bit the dust, I'll start a new interest thread and see if we can get another group set up and get a new ball rolling.

    Thanks all,

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    Here in Arizona all you need to do is put a cloth on both sides of the record, place it on the sidewalk, put a couple bricks on top and come back in an hour. "Perfectly" flat XD
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    boy in my youth i baked more than a few on the old turntable. Amazing what a few hours in the sun will do to a stack on the platter while at school
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,020
    With two blocks of programmed silence/skidding on each side coinciding with the footprint of two bricks?
    I disabled signatures.
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  • StevieB
    StevieB Posts: 256
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Me, Carl (schwarcw), Ted (reeltrouble1), Ricardo, Joe (hearingimpared) are all I can think of right now. I had a spreadsheet of the entire group a couple PC’s ago where we would track its location. I would have to try and locate it. I have no idea who has it now or who had it last.

    OT, how does the at33 compare to the 103r?
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,497
    StevieB wrote: »

    OT, how does the at33 compare to the 103r?

    I prefer the AT33PTG/II over the Denon 103R. The AT is more detailed with better high frequency and tighter articulate bass. It only takes me 30 seconds to swap linear arms, and I can't recall the last time I had the Denon on it.

    My Denon 103R is modded which improved the sound, I added an aluminum body.

    midas_1.jpg

    at33ptgii.jpg

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  • StevieB
    StevieB Posts: 256
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    StevieB wrote: »


    I prefer the AT33PTG/II over the Denon 103R. The AT is more detailed with better high frequency and tighter articulate bass. It only takes me 30 seconds to swap linear arms, and I can't recall the last time I had the Denon on it.

    My Denon 103R is modded which improved the sound, I added an aluminum body.

    midas_1.jpg

    at33ptgii.jpg

    Thanks for that. I've had the At33ptg/II bookmarked on amazon and ebay for a couple of months just gotta pull the trigger. :#
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