First Watt M2 Power Amplifier by Nelson Pass
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Both are single stage class A designs.
Both are Mosfet output stages (although the First Watt adds Jfets into the mix)
In a general sense, they are very similar topologies with the differences being minor in the grand scheme of things.
Of course, we should differentiate if we are comparing the Aleph 3 or the Aleph 30 because in the case of the Aleph 3, there are considerable differences in topology. But the Aleph 30 improved a lot on the 3 and moved to newer technologies that were available at the time. -
Brock I think you forgot a few pages._________________________________________________
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Wow, thanks Brock for that wealth of info. I should have been more specific originally in that I have the ALeph 30.
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The First Watt is SOLD (on another website)
Thanks for all the thoughts, prayers, and concern for my family...
The First Watt is a great amp...it plays with authority and clarityMain Rig:
Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3
Second Rig:
Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded) -
Sorry for stinking up your FS thread Darren. I guess I was wrong to share my opinions on the question having heard both amps using identical hardware.
I will make sure I don't share my opinion in the future as apparently, it will be taken as some sort of personal insult and turn into a party to prove someone wrong."Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Sorry if I soiled the thread, or helped to in any way, but, I was seriously asking questions because I was very interested in the amp. Guess it wasn't meant to be.
Again, condolences, and glad you had a quick sale. -
Sorry for stinking up your FS thread Darren. I guess I was wrong to share my opinions on the question having heard both amps using identical hardware.
I will make sure I don't share my opinion in the future as apparently, it will be taken as some sort of personal insult and turn into a party to prove someone wrong.
All I corrected were the facts you mixed up. To be honest I read your posts and never got the idea you owned both the M2 and Aleph 30 and you were giving your impressions. Certainly didn't read that way.
I apologize if I hurt your feelings, but your facts were a little jumbled.
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"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
Brock I think you forgot a few pages.
LMAO....you betcha. Plus no mention of the different case screws used, wtf Brock ?HT SYSTEM-
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Cables-
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Sorry.My little tid bits were just to clarify some differences.I just took it as discussion.There was no malice intent or effort to pile on.
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Hey, piling on is what we do best around here. Not sure who gets the Homecoming crown for best couple though.....John and Bob Carver, or Brock and Nelson Pass. Toss up in my book.
Apologies for the slight derail to the OP in his FS thread, rock on....and somebody snag this bad boy.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
It wasn't my intent to "call" anyone out or be malicious. The info and photo's were jumbled a bit so I thought I was going the extra mile to inform would be buyer since I'm a bit..... ahem......passionate about NP gear.
Sorry if it was taken wrong..............we are here to learn/share,, etc.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
No worriesMain Rig:
Antipodes DX > Roon > PS Audio Directstream Jr.>deHavilland Ultraverve 3 >Belles Reference 150a >Harbeth C7 ES3
Second Rig:
Roon> PS Audio Directstream Jr Bridge II > EE Minimax pre (Tutay mods) >Belles 150A Ref >Monitor 5 (Westmassguy-modded) -
I'm also sorry....for something. Looks like this is the apology thread.
Congrats on the sell
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So sorry for your loss!