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EndersShadow

Guys without putting to much out there Ryan works for a IT consulting company as a specialist in networking and data migration/backup, and the company has contracts with multi billion dollar companies.

All this discussion is stuff I'm sure he's considered and rejected for various reasons. Mainly I'm sure it comes down to scale-ability or lack thereof for a data setup such as his that doesn't cost him more than his house down the road as his library continues to grow.

voltz

but we need to keep him on his feet and the info also helps others besides Ryan

billbillw

That's exactly why I still keep my collection of music and movies stored in more than 1 location. I have two separate RAID1 array NAS units (one for music/personal files and the other for video files) and I keep the files on local storage on my PC. In some cases, I have them on a 2nd PC as well.

I know, not the most effective use of my storage, but it would literally take a catastrophe for my RAID servers and my local storage to be taken out at the same time.

msg

you're absolutely right. nothing to be learned here. complete waste of time.

EndersShadow wrote: »

Guys without putting to much out there Ryan works for a IT consulting company as a specialist in networking and data migration/backup, and the company has contracts with multi billion dollar companies.

All this discussion is stuff I'm sure he's considered and rejected for various reasons. Mainly I'm sure it comes down to scale-ability or lack thereof for a data setup such as his that doesn't cost him more than his house down the road as his library continues to grow.

ZLTFUL

Discussion is all well and good and I encourage it.

But in the end, we are talking about my own personal media library and not some enterprise data center.

At work, we take a considerably different approach but then we also have dozens of 100TB datastores containing data for the entirety of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and their subsidiaries. It also helps that the federal government has, for all intents and purposes, an unlimited budget. Unfortunately, because of federal regulations on data storage of PHI and PII, we can't use cloud services. It all has to reside within our data centers.

Even though my own personal library compares to a small or medium business worth of data, I don't have the budget to incorporate a full dataset backup solution...cloud or otherwise. Almost everything (storage arrays, server, network hardware, UPSes) were obtained through federal government excess auctions or good deals on Amazon and eBay. The only thing purchased new was the drives themselves.

My server is a Dell R710 running dual Hex core Xeons, 72GB of ECC RAM, dual OCZ enterprise grade SSDs in RAID 1 for boot/applications with 4x4TB internal drives in RAID 5. That alone is more robust than the file/print and database servers we provide the ~1200 contractor sites with. But they are also provided with Dell Powervaults with enough tapes to backup their data for 2 weeks on site with a third week of tapes offsite. Again, not in my budget.

As much as I would like to incorporate a cloud based backup solution for my entire library, with 1400 CDs and SACDs, over 1300 Blu-Rays and ~150 DVDs, even compressed, that isn't an option between cost and network bandwidth (I live semi-rurally and our fastest connection available is only 50/5. The upload speeds kill me for any type of net based offsite storage).

Anyway, I really do appreciate the feedback and discussion.
We (the IT nerds here) all understand that we always have to be learning in this field or we become obsolete very fast.

EndersShadow

EndersShadow wrote: »

Guys without putting to much out there Ryan works for a IT consulting company as a specialist in networking and data migration/backup, and the company has contracts with multi billion dollar companies.

All this discussion is stuff I'm sure he's considered and rejected for various reasons. Mainly I'm sure it comes down to scale-ability or lack thereof for a data setup such as his that doesn't cost him more than his house down the road as his library continues to grow.

voltz wrote: »

but we need to keep him on his feet and the info also helps others besides Ryan

msg wrote: »

you're absolutely right. nothing to be learned here. complete waste of time.

If my last response came off as harsh I apologize. I've had a hell of past few weeks with kids down sick/admitted to the hospital for dehydration, along with my wife and I getting sick, and the lack of the sleep the comes with sick kids and family.

The "intent" was to let folks know Ryan knows his stuff, and I am sure the solutions he choose were chosen as the "best worst" option given his specific scenario.

Beyond that, discussing your own methods for backup is more than welcomed so we can all learn.

Again apologize if my tone came off as harsh. I did not mean it to.

Best wishes for a good 2017 for all

voltz

No problem Dan Enjoy your New Years!

I taken away a lot from this but backups are my lazy habit and most of this is over me head . but all I have Is my music that is important and its backed up several times & several places.

tonyb

ZLTFUL wrote: »

Anyway, I really do appreciate the feedback and discussion.
We (the IT nerds here) all understand that we always have to be learning in this field or we become obsolete very fast.

Absolutely, but personal and professional are different animals, and wallets. When talking personal, you weigh the technology, your wallet, and sprinkle in some common sense. Sometimes what you want to do in a home environment isn't feasible for various reasons, so you revert back to what you know will work but isn't the most convenient. Least until technology and cost come down to real world applications for home storage.

Erik Tracy

Man, experiences like this make me say that while I was 'in the field', I remained a Luddite.

It really comes down to what value you place on your time. And I will always value my time as higher over cost of replicating effort.