Opinions please Rotel vs Parasound
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My apologies.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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I'm only apologizing for derailing the thread. Lol
My only point is that quality gear deserves a quality source. Bluetooth in any capacity is taking a big step backwards. There is much better options, such as chromecast audio.Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
I know squat about Bluetooth audio and it's something I'll never use, but this topic got me a wee bit curious. Seems to be a lot of if, ands and buts about the format out there. This seemed to be one of the better bits of information, but only refers to the aptX version. Note, it is still a compressed format. All other versions appear to be greatly inferior.
CSR uses in their BT chips aptX codec with the following parameters (specs by CSR):
Compression ratio: 4:1
Audio Format: 16-bit, 44.1kHz
Data Rates: 352kbps
Frequency Response: 10Hz to 22kHz
Algorithmic Delay: <1.89ms @ Fs 48KHz
Dynamic Range: 16-bit: >92dB
THD+N: -68.8dB
I have to say, there are SO many formats/codecs and SO many resolution levels available today that it's beyond ridiculous and results in folks basically chasing their tail. No thanks!
One other thing....I don't give a ratz a$$ about convenience. Why someone needs to have music with them 24/7 boggles the mind. There's a big world out there and you're missing a lot of it.
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As much as I enjoy this thread, I enjoy looking at the gear in everybody's signature even more, yikes! Nice stuff. Will be nice to see what the OP ends up with , and a reviewSamsung pn64f8500
Sonus faber venere 2.5
Sf venere center
Oppo 105d
Squeezebox touch
Parasound hca1500a
Apc power filter
Audioquest cables asst
Polk rtia3 SB
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I've just dipped my toes in the bluetooth pool over the past couple weeks. I picked up an Audioengine B1 that does the aptx and it's earned a spot in my main rig. No it's not cd quality but it's certainly listenable. My main use for it is music while I'm on the stairstepper for 45 minutes every day. It's a terribly boring exercise and several of my cd's aren't 45 minutes long. Fm radio around here is terrible so that narrows it down to the smartphone and bluetooth. To me the convenience more than makes up for the not so great sound.
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Spotify, Pandora, tidal, hi rez, no new interface to learn, just press connect with one click in your music app and enjoy. It really doesn't get easier than chromecast audio. You can even connect without being connected to Wi-Fi, if you want. Also Bluetooth is very limited in range, where the chromecast audio goes as far as your Wi-Fi. It's only $35 bucks and has a optical out to bypass it's dac.
Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant -
As much as I enjoy this thread, I enjoy looking at the gear in everybody's signature even more, yikes! Nice stuff. Will be nice to see what the OP ends up with , and a review
Will do.
Sent you a pm.
I want the best of both worlds, good sound but also convenience.
Gotta balance it out.
Can't have a tube preamp in the living room, definitely NO tube amps in the living room. The system has to look good because of WAF. And the wife dictates what goes into this room because technically it's no longer mine.
So, I have to appease her.
Which I don't mind at all, it's actually nice for once that she wants me to set up the system.
I think I will go for the Rotel.
I am just trying to decide whether I go with:
1. Rotel RA1590
Or
2. Rotel RC1590+RB1590
And then I gotta decide silver or black... lol.
I have attached the console pic from Restoration Hardware.
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Looks like something out of the local jail.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Some pics... RA1592 in black and silver.
RC1590/RB1590 in black or silver.
Gotta decide soon... wife's on my butt for this one.
Spend the extra and have it sitting out of the console? Or spend less, keep it in the console but sacrifice some sound?
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Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
I like the silver...looks sweet!Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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jeremymarcinko wrote: »I like the silver...looks sweet!
Me too I like the silver... just not sure how it will look with a black iron looking media console... trying to picture it, squinting my eyes.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
jeremymarcinko wrote: »Spotify, Pandora, tidal, hi rez, no new interface to learn, just press connect with one click in your music app and enjoy. It really doesn't get easier than chromecast audio. You can even connect without being connected to Wi-Fi, if you want. Also Bluetooth is very limited in range, where the chromecast audio goes as far as your Wi-Fi. It's only $35 bucks and has a optical out to bypass it's dac.
I just checked out Chromecast audio and I'm thinking that's going to be replacing my bluetooth very soon. It sounds like it's as easy to use as BT but much better sound quality. Thanks for the tip and I sure wish I'd done my wireless homework first. -
Skip's been very helpful on this thread.
So - black or silver?Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
If I say silver, you'll get the black.....Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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If I say silver, you'll get the black.....
If you tell him to get some Audioquest wires to go with it he might buy some MIT's
afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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If I say silver, you'll get the black.....
I can't tell if you're using reverse psychology or jedi mind tricks on me, Jesse.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Black. I wish the new Rotel gear didn't look like emotiva. At least they sound better.
Black is more sinister. And it matches the media console.
My worry is silver will stick out.
But on its own, silver looks really slick too.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Is there a difference? Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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Good luck finding the PAINT... -
ken brydson wrote: »
What paint? The wall?Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Go with the black Joey, the silver would draw too much attn. The focus should be on the music/movies.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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What I like about my Outlaw* 975 (near) equally to its better SQ over the Rotel 1068 is the (smaller) black* faceplate.Go with the black Joey...
Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work -
Of course the other option is just ask your WIFE which color she would like!Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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I say get silver, and throw some lights in media center so it really stand out. Maybe 500 watt spot lights.
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I personally prefer Silver faced gear.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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Of course the other option is just ask your WIFE which color she would like!
I like silver.
Wife likes black.
Guess which color I'm getting?Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Too bad they don't offer dark grey.....enjoy the black!_____________________________________________________________________________________________
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Wife likes black.
I know there's a joke here somewhere. Something, something, she'll never go back?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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