Definitive Bp2000 vs BP8060 vs Polk SDA 1.2TL
So, I have gone a little crazy. I currently have a set of Polk 1.2TL, full RDO replacements already, a set of BP8060ST and I am picking up a mint set of BP2000 this weekend.
My primary use will be 90% HT, I have a in ceiling definitive center and Definitive in ceiling rears.
I am wanting my mains to handle the lows of home theater, the goal is no other speakers in the room.
BP2000, 4*6.5" woofers, 2*1" tweeters, 1*15" powered sub per speaker. This was Definitives top of the line fifteen years ago.
BP8060ST, 3* 4.5" midbass, 2*1" tweeters, 1*10" powered sub with dual 10" passive radiators
Polk SDA SRS 1.2TL, we know the specs.
I plan to power these with an upper end Pioneer Elite receiver, will consider an external amplifier for the mains.
My initial impression is to use the BP2000, the 15" is powered and sealed and should naturally hit around 25hz in room all day.
If you were in this position, what would you choose and why?
My primary use will be 90% HT, I have a in ceiling definitive center and Definitive in ceiling rears.
I am wanting my mains to handle the lows of home theater, the goal is no other speakers in the room.
BP2000, 4*6.5" woofers, 2*1" tweeters, 1*15" powered sub per speaker. This was Definitives top of the line fifteen years ago.
BP8060ST, 3* 4.5" midbass, 2*1" tweeters, 1*10" powered sub with dual 10" passive radiators
Polk SDA SRS 1.2TL, we know the specs.
I plan to power these with an upper end Pioneer Elite receiver, will consider an external amplifier for the mains.
My initial impression is to use the BP2000, the 15" is powered and sealed and should naturally hit around 25hz in room all day.
If you were in this position, what would you choose and why?
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I would love to have those options!!!
I would just one of the def-tech pairs, probably the newest ones for the waf. Aren't you married now Trey? Now way in h&ll my wife lets those SDAs in our house, but those new def-techs are really slim, and probably still offer pretty awesome bass.
Of course, as you know your ears can only decide (unless your better half decides for you!)Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
The 8060's....better all around speaker than the 2000's. Be a shame to use 1.2's strictly for HT.HT SYSTEM-
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I do agree the 8060 will have a better sounding top half, plus I have the ATmos modules to go on top.
My only concern with the 8060 is the bass extension, I wonder if anyone has ever done a graph of the in room response of either.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
that's what subs are for
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If you are thinking BP2000's for the bass extension, don't. I auditioned them back when they were DefTechs top of the line. The bass was very loose & boomy. I ended up going with BP30's and an external sub. Much more musical.
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I do agree the 8060 will have a better sounding top half, plus I have the ATmos modules to go on top.
My only concern with the 8060 is the bass extension, I wonder if anyone has ever done a graph of the in room response of either.
Those two passive drivers are to allow the 10" driver to perform like its in a ported enclosure. That should let the speaker go lower than if it was a single 10..
Since I know you've got an attic space above your room......
Have we thought about Infinite Baffle enclosures shooting down into the room through the ceiling...
Then you dont NEED to worry about the response of the mains... and the sub's arent "IN" the room, so its a double win
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I am pretty happy with my setup. It's a big difficult room with crazy nulls and only treatments are acoustic panels behind fronts and rears. I do not care to put a lot of extra money into the HT side, but feel this is adequate and enjoyable.
Fronts - 1.2 (full mods)
Center - CS350 LS
Surrounds (corners) - DefTech BP-2000
Backs (ceiling) - Polk AB-500
Sub - Hsu VTF 3.4
Bass from the BP's helps fill and balance the room. And the rear tweeter bounces nicely off the back wall. I will say I was never in love with the BP's as fronts during the growing family years (95% HT/5% Music) but I've grown to appreciate them much more in their surround role.b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
If you are thinking BP2000's for the bass extension, don't. I auditioned them back when they were DefTechs top of the line. The bass was very loose & boomy. I ended up going with BP30's and an external sub. Much more musical.
That is interesting, are you sure you auditioned the BP2000 and not the BP2000TL or the BP3000TL. The only reason I asked is that the BP2000 is sealed while the others feature a quasi TL port. Granted, def tech has never been known to be musical but more general listening and movies reproduction.
I have only heard the BP3000TL before and that was many moons ago. I am curious to see how the BP2000 does, a review long ago said the -3db point was 23hz which is kind of what I am looking for.
I do agree though that the 8060 is an awesome speaker and I will definitely have to compare the two to really know which one is going to suit my situation. I just feel the 8080 would be a bette comparison.
I appreciate the feedback and I would love to hear a setup with the 1.2 for mains and the bp2000 for rears! :P
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I picked up the BP2000 this weekend, I have been into audio now for like... 15 years? In fifteen years, I've never seen a pair of speakers in such good condition. They literally look like they were in hibernation the last decade, beautiful condition.
Definitely excited to compare them to the8060!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Please let us know how you think they stand up against each other. Looking forward to your insight.Epson 3020 projector. Da Lite screen. Oppo 103. Yamaha CXA5000. B&K 7250ii. HSU VTF2. Def Tech Supercube 4000. Polk Rtia9 CsiA6 FxiA6. Monster hts 2600. Home theater.
Bedroom consist of NHT model 2 powered by Parasound hca1200ii coming from my computer.
Stuff laying around. Too much to list but don't want to sell either. -
Oooooooohhhhh what diff does it make as everyone knows that Trey IS GOING TO upgrade the crap out of whichever ones he chooses!
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My initial thoughts on the BP2000 is that this is the Definitive speaker I loved so much with the BP10B... Just true authoritative sound, slam, lots of sound, maybe not the most focused but puts out pleasing sound all over the house... Having fun so far with these. I have the 8060 boxed up but will pull them out in a week or so to compare.
I know what the 1.2TL can do and I just don't think they are what I am looking for on the budget I'm going for. I know the Definitives can be adequately powered off of a receiver for movies where as the 1.2TL demands a separate amp...
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.