Turntable build or not?
machone
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Back in the 70's I bought a SME 3012 tonearm for $50. Now it is worth over a thousand. For years I had it mounted to a piece of plywood with a Connoisseur BD1 turntable kit. I don't know what happened to the turntable.
Now I am considering building another turntable from scratch but it will be expensive and I may be better off selling the SME tonearm and buying a decent turntable. Only thing is I really want to build this turntable.
It is a knock off of the Audiomeca Belladonna and will accept the SME 3012. It will use an ac sync motor with a Phoenix Falcon/Roadrunner controller. I have it modeled in SolidWorks ready to build. Once completed including the stand it will weigh in at over 250 pounds.
The SME needs to be reworked/rewired and I can get that done by smetonearms.com for $350.
The motor/controller/tach can be had for around $700.
Over a thousand and I have not put one part on the lathe or mill.
Once again to build or not to build?
Please talk me out of this
Now I am considering building another turntable from scratch but it will be expensive and I may be better off selling the SME tonearm and buying a decent turntable. Only thing is I really want to build this turntable.
It is a knock off of the Audiomeca Belladonna and will accept the SME 3012. It will use an ac sync motor with a Phoenix Falcon/Roadrunner controller. I have it modeled in SolidWorks ready to build. Once completed including the stand it will weigh in at over 250 pounds.
The SME needs to be reworked/rewired and I can get that done by smetonearms.com for $350.
The motor/controller/tach can be had for around $700.
Over a thousand and I have not put one part on the lathe or mill.
Once again to build or not to build?
Please talk me out of this
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Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
Comments
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You're on the wrong forum for reasoning.
Build the damn thing and stop whiningWhere’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!! -
I had an SME that I bought around the same time, mounted to a Technics 1200. Loved that combo, but I got divorced from it.
I agree with MB - do it!
PS: I then bought an Infinity Black Widow that I really liked, which sits in storage today."Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer -
If you don't, you'll be sorry down the road..Some final words,
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren -
It will use an ac sync motor with a Phoenix Falcon/Roadrunner controller.
Once again to build or not to build?
Please talk me out of this
I built a heavy plinth Lenco idler drive with linear air bearing arm. I'd have to spend an insane amount of retail money to best it. I say go for it... I have a Lenco PTP5 started.
I was a beta tester for the 25 watt version of the Phoenix Engineering Eagle power supply. I also use the RoadRunner tach to control speed. You can spend more on a TT speed control but it doesn't guarantee better. Good info in his thread at diyaudio.
Automotive clear coat finish, Cadillac Black.
Got tired of the all black, did a maple wrap with walnut corner accents.
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That's what I figured. Down the rabbit hole I go.
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SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER" -
Somewhere around that time I had an SME 3009 with a Denon DP-75 platter. Man, I liked that set-up and it looked great. I've been told the newer SME arms are much improved but not sure about that. There is a classic beauty in the vintage arms
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The new SME arms also have an improved priceMojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER" -
Arms can be high performers and be artsy at the same time. I regret selling my 12" Moerch DP6. It was available in black, chrome or gold plate. You could buy different weight arms to match any cartridge compliance.
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I met with the machine shop and they will do the work for their material cost only. I plan to submit the shop drawings for quotation and decide which direction to go.Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER" -
Awesome! Can't wait to hear how it comes out!
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Ok, after much research I am not building my own turntable.Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER" -
Instead, I bought a Pioneer PLX-1000. Mounted a Shure SC35C cartidge/N35X stylus.
It's nice to listen the a good analog source for a change.Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"