What's new with streamers?

audiocr381ve
audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
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I'm using Tidal to stream music exclusively in my 2-channel rig and am wanting to upgrade my Squeezebox Touch. What's new out there these days that has Tidal integration? I'm looking at the Auralic Aeries or Auralic Mini, but have read that Bryston has a unit that can stream Tidal. Is there anything else that I'm missing?

Budget is under 1.5K.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,150
    Here are some reviews..pretty good article.
    http://www.audiostream.com/category/players-streamer-reviews
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    Thanks for the link!

    Just out the order in for the Bluesound Node 2. Eager to here if it beats my Squeezebox Touch / Wyred 4 Sound Remedy combo.
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    I have the Aurelia Aries Mini and highly recommend it. The DS lightning app that drives it is awesome.
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    I hate auto correct. AURALIC
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,150
    audiocr381ve wrote: »
    Thanks for the link!

    Just out the order in for the Bluesound Node 2. Eager to here if it beats my Squeezebox Touch / Wyred 4 Sound Remedy combo.

    That Bluesound Node 2 piqued my interest as well recently...looks like a good value. I wanted a new preamp, too though, so ended up with a Peachtree Audio novaPre tube hybrid w/ internal DAC, and using a SBT as transporter.

    Tell us how you like the Node 2 after you try it.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    If you can do Ethernet in and USB out, you might wanna try the Sonore microRendu. I use Roon to manage library including Tidal. And I know you didn't ask, but if you haven't already tried Roon, I'd recommend trying that as well. I haven't gotten this much enjoyment out of music since college days.

    My last thought is that you might want to try HQPlayer. It complicates things a bit, but you might like the SQ with filters, upsampling to DSD (esp with the Hugo), and digital room correction that's possible. Apparently, Roon is trying to integrate HQPlayer but I don't think it's imminent.

    Sonore sponsored Computer Audiophile thread

    My microRendu thread

    How Roon works

    HQPlayer
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    If you can do Ethernet in and USB out, you might wanna try the Sonore microRendu. I use Roon to manage library including Tidal. And I know you didn't ask, but if you haven't already tried Roon, I'd recommend trying that as well. I haven't gotten this much enjoyment out of music since college days.

    My last thought is that you might want to try HQPlayer. It complicates things a bit, but you might like the SQ with filters, upsampling to DSD (esp with the Hugo), and digital room correction that's possible. Apparently, Roon is trying to integrate HQPlayer but I don't think it's imminent.

    Sonore sponsored Computer Audiophile thread

    My microRendu thread

    How Roon works

    HQPlayer

    Seems like all I hear about is Roon these days. I just went through their website and it does look like a winner. I don't know if I could swallow spending $20 a month on Tidal and then piling on Roon for another $10 right now.

    The Bluesound Node 2 has been breaking in for 24 hours now. It's an obvious upgrade over the Squeezebox Touch in all of the obvious ways but what jumps out is top end extension. It's just cleaner up there.

    The BluOS app is very straight forward and it was easy to get everything up and running. Haven't had a hiccup with it.

    So far so good!
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  • RamZet
    RamZet Posts: 792
    edited September 2016
    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/172447/what-music-server-are-we-all-using/p1

    That has some good info in it.


    The Node 2 is nice, has a DAC built in.
    Sonos with a external DAC is hands down one of the best based on its GUI and support.

    Im still using the Transport to play Tidal b/c it looks cool and that AKM DAC sounds so sweet with my system.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Do you guys know if the node 2 is on par for a reference system as auralic Aries with upgrade?

    I'm not using the dac, we are going to use the Emm. I need to buy 3 though.
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • Wardsweb
    Wardsweb Posts: 935
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Do you guys know if the node 2 is on par for a reference system as auralic Aries with upgrade?

    I'm not using the dac, we are going to use the Emm. I need to buy 3 though.

    I don't know that it will make much difference in that you are only looking for something play your high res files. All decoding will be done by your DAC and not the DAC in either machine. Note, it looks like the Node2 only does PCM, while the Auralic does PCM and DSD.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Wardsweb wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Do you guys know if the node 2 is on par for a reference system as auralic Aries with upgrade?

    I'm not using the dac, we are going to use the Emm. I need to buy 3 though.

    I don't know that it will make much difference in that you are only looking for something play your high res files. All decoding will be done by your DAC and not the DAC in either machine. Note, it looks like the Node2 only does PCM, while the Auralic does PCM and DSD.

    That's the diff
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,289
    I love my Bluesound Node 2, use it exclusively for Tidal streaming, cannot tell any difference streaming the same material via redbook CD and Tidal
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I love my Bluesound Node 2, use it exclusively for Tidal streaming, cannot tell any difference streaming the same material via redbook CD and Tidal

    Hows the software? You like it? Does it work with thumbdrives?
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Joey_V wrote: »
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I love my Bluesound Node 2, use it exclusively for Tidal streaming, cannot tell any difference streaming the same material via redbook CD and Tidal

    Hows the software? You like it? Does it work with thumbdrives?

    IMO, software is the primary factor. Roon (with Tidal) is just SO MUCH FUN. I've never enjoyed music so much. If you haven't tried Roon yet, I would give it a shot before buying a streamer. [IIRC, the Bluesound Node is not RoonReady.] RoonReady streamer makers include DCS, Auralic, Bryston, PSAudio, and probably other high end manufacturers.

    Here's the list.

    My Bryston BDP-1 sounds fantastic in Roon mode, so I can imagine the BDP-2 would satisfy you sonically. And Bryston was offering a free 90-day (I think) Roon trial. It might not be expensive enough for you though. :)

    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,289
    Joey_V wrote: »
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I love my Bluesound Node 2, use it exclusively for Tidal streaming, cannot tell any difference streaming the same material via redbook CD and Tidal

    Hows the software? You like it? Does it work with thumbdrives?

    The software works well for me. I use the Node pretty much only for TIDAL, so I can attest to the functionality of the TIDAL part of the interface. I haven't run across anything that annoys me yet, and yes it will work with a USB thumb drive or powered external hard drive (or NAS).
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    What's roon?
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,289
    Roon is an opensource music database/player. I ran it on a Raspberry PI music streamer I built. Works well from the most part, but since it is a freeware type program it does have its issues. I am surprised Roon runs on a Bryston unit, that is cool to hear. I imagine if Bryston supports it, they have a specific version or they have the kinks all worked out.
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

    2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    Not exactly.

    How Roon Works
    Roon Pricing (does not include Tidal which IMO is needed for Roon to really shine)

    Try it out. It took me a good while before I fully appreciated what it offered. Now I'm completely hooked.
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,289
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Not exactly.

    How Roon Works
    Roon Pricing (does not include Tidal which IMO is needed for Roon to really shine)

    Try it out. It took me a good while before I fully appreciated what it offered. Now I'm completely hooked.

    Bah you are correct, I am thinking of Rune Audio (tricksters they are).
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

    2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    So roon is like a monthly paid savant?
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited October 2016
    Hmmm, I would say Roon is your older brother's dealer friend who has lots of money and free time, owns and knows intimately 5,000 albums, including complete collections of about any artist, knows a ton about all the band members, has memorized liner notes, knows where groups are playing live, can instantly pull an album and play it on good gear, knows most lyrics, and can tell you about connections between artists, albums, songs, producers, labels, genres, and about anything else music related that you can think of.

    Before you know it, you realize you've been talking, learning about, and playing his music in his den long after his wife has gone to bed. And you have a huge stack of albums to take home and listen to.

    If you're a music lover, you'll love Roon.

    Here's a 30-min walk thru video. This does not show the current release, but should give you a good idea. But I still think you just have to try it for yourself for a little while to fully appreciate.
    https://youtu.be/u1LvfgOQ3JY
    b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
    Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    Hmmm, I would say Roon is your older brother's dealer friend who has lots of money and free time, owns and knows intimately 5,000 albums, including complete collections of about any artist, knows a ton about all the band members, has memorized liner notes, knows where groups are playing live, can instantly pull an album and play it on good gear, knows most lyrics, and can tell you about connections between artists, albums, songs, producers, labels, genres, and about anything else music related that you can think of.

    Before you know it, you realize you've been talking, learning about, and playing his music in his den long after his wife has gone to bed. And you have a huge stack of albums to take home and listen to.

    If you're a music lover, you'll love Roon.

    Here's a 30-min walk thru video. This does not show the current release, but should give you a good idea. But I still think you just have to try it for yourself for a little while to fully appreciate.
    https://youtu.be/u1LvfgOQ3JY

    I HAVE TO HAVE IT!!! I always thought Scott's older brothers dealer friend was the COOLEST! Wanted to be him...alas, I'm just the Dos Equis man.
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,157
    Thank you for all input from an older guy. Thanks
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    Press release indicates that BlueSound will be Roon Ready by year's end.

    http://www.bluesound.com/de/news-de/2016/bluesound-announces-roon-partnership/?cl
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    Press release says BlueSound will be Roon Ready by year's end.

    http://www.bluesound.com/de/news-de/2016/bluesound-announces-roon-partnership/?cl
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    Press release says BlueSound will be Roon Ready by year's end.

    http://www.bluesound.com/de/news-de/2016/bluesound-announces-roon-partnership/?cl
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    Press release says that BlueSound will be Roon Ready by year's end:

    http://www.bluesound.com/de/news-de/2016/bluesound-announces-roon-partnership/?cl

    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
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  • Mr_Hz
    Mr_Hz Posts: 176
    Press release says that BlueSound equipment will be Roon ready by year's end:

    http://www.bluesound.com/de/news-de/2016/bluesound-announces-roon-partnership/?cl
    2.3TL's - Living Room
    CRS+'s (4.1 TL's) - Office
    SDA1C's - Famdamly Rm
    SDA1C's - Master Bedroom
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