Biwiring Question...

kharp1

Not sure if this is the right place, but, here goes. I have a few sets of speakers that are biwirable and I also have a Marsh a200s amp that has dual outputs for biwiring. I don't recall ever seeing a set of biwire speakers that had dual amp ends as well as speaker ends. I would assume the amp designer felt there was some benefit to this set-up.

What's the thinking here? Do I run a risk of timing issues by trying to get two identical 8 foot runs and perhaps one being a tad shorter? Would it really make a difference? I'm really interested in trying this set-up, but, not sure whether I should try and order a set of biwire cables with dual amp and speaker ends, or, just getting 2 identical 8 ft speaker cables and hooking them up separately?

Any thoughts?

Here's a link to the amp manual (see page 11)
http://marshsounddesign.com/Manuals/a200 manual.pdf

gp4jesus

Try it. If you find it was a wa$te, some one will buy the extra cable

tonyb

The dual posts are for 2 single runs of cables to bi-wire, where as a regular bi-wire cable uses one run but splits the ends at one end. You essentially buy 2 runs of the same cable which can get expensive if your using quality cable.

Whether or not it makes a difference is up to you, personally I find it makes little.

voltz

You could buy some 4 conductor wire from Doug at $1.7 per foot 20 feet to make 2 10 foot cables is only like $34 - this way you only have a single run of cable and not 2.

Add 4 pairs of banana plugs or spades if you like and you have what some call bi-amp cables, just make sure you mark them high or low and neg or pos.

http://www.douglasconnection.com/Furez-12AWG-4-Conductor-Speaker-Cable-Raw-FZ124.htm

skrol

tonyb wrote: »

... You essentially buy 2 runs of the same cable which can get expensive if your using quality cable.

I've wondered... does it have to be the same cable for the highs and for the lows? Would it be a bad idea to use something like heavy gauge for the lows and something more exotic to bring out the delicate details of the highs?

tonyb

skrol wrote: »

tonyb wrote: »

... You essentially buy 2 runs of the same cable which can get expensive if your using quality cable.

I've wondered... does it have to be the same cable for the highs and for the lows? Would it be a bad idea to use something like heavy gauge for the lows and something more exotic to bring out the delicate details of the highs?

You can use different gauge for the top and bottom, but I'd stay with the same brand and series otherwise it may sound funky.

This is normally why we suggest upgrading those junky brass jumper plates that come with speakers. Use quality jumpers or make some from the same speaker wire your using.

If your going to spend more coin on 2 runs of single cable, why not just buy a better bi-wire set or get better jumpers and a single run of better cables ? To me anyway, if you want to bring out those highs and your current choice of cable isn't cutting the mustard, change them.

kharp1

Thanks for the feedback guys, always good info here! This is going to be for the Usher 6311's I got from Craig (vcwatkins) here on the forum. My Vandersteen 2ce's also have biwire capability. I contacted Doug and will probably order his top of the line wire with probably the Furutech connectors (bananas on amp end and spades on the speaker end) and just do two sets of 7 footers. As was mentioned previously, If I can't use them someone else will.

kharp1

PS, currently using a set of Kimber biwire cables purchased recently on the forum.

tonyb

Which one's....8's or 4's....TC's ?

kharp1

* PR's ? I think that's what they are.

kharp1

kharp1 wrote: »

* PR's ? I think that's what they are.

Supposed to read 8PR's I think.

F1nut

MIT Shotgun S1.3 single runs with MIT jumpers. You WILL thank me!