Has anyone ever tested an individual driver?

I have one driver that will buzz at a certain point during 2 or 3 songs that pop up when I have ITunes playing. I tried to find a tone generator and discovered

http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_perceptualsinesweep.php

but it won't reproduce the buzz that I am hearing. Has anyone ever tried to do something similar and what did you use? Did you remove/unplug the tweeter to test the woofer, and then reverse the process to test the tweeter?

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    Yes, remove them and plug them in directly. Just play the music that was causing the buzz and see what happens. Good luck!
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  • I'll give it a shot, thanks!
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    And of course by plug them in I mean touch the speaker wire to the bare connections on each speaker, one speaker at a time. And be careful not to touch the speaker wire together whilst you have the amplifier on!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    What speakers, what power?

    Do NOT connect a tweeter directly unless the volume is very low.
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  • They are (primarily) my old RT series speakers. RT10 mains, RT8 wide fronts, CS245 center, R10 (bookshelf) rears, no sub. Onkyo TX-SR608, 100w/channel.

    My thought was to remove the woofer from each cabinet, test the tweeter through the cabinet connections, then unplug the tweeter without removing it and reconnect the woofer to test. Saves me a little time in removing every single speaker from the cabinet.
  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,200
    Good idea
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    You might want to check that all the screws securing the drivers to the cabinet are tight before anything else.
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  • F1nut, that was the first thing I checked. Over the last year or so, I have had to reglue the spiders on a couple of the woofers. I thought that maybe I had left something loose or out of place, but it didn't turn out to be that easy.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    Has it occurred to you that you might be over driving your speakers?
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  • I wouldn't think that too much power is the issue. The RT8's are rated for up to 125w and I'm pretty sure the RT10's are higher than that. The regluing that I did was on one of my original RT8's that I bought new in '95ish and on one RT10 that I bought from a local guy, and the glue failing over time seems to be a semi common problem with this particular line of speakers.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    Over driving occurs much more often with too little power. That said, I was not aware of the glue failure issue.
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  • Speaking of over driving (kind of a new question), does a speaker's ability to handle power decrease over time? For instance, the aforementioned RT8 was tested at the factory to be able to handle up to 125w. If it was retested now, after 20 years of use, would it still have the same rating or would it be lower due to the long time use?
  • deucekazoo
    deucekazoo Posts: 146
    You probably already know this but don't forget about other stuff around your speakers. Glasses, pictures, and also the grill. If you are testing one speaker at a time you might remove the grill and not think about it causing the noise.
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  • Thanks for the reminder!
  • soulsurfer
    soulsurfer Posts: 22
    Speaking of over driving (kind of a new question), does a speaker's ability to handle power decrease over time? For instance, the aforementioned RT8 was tested at the factory to be able to handle up to 125w. If it was retested now, after 20 years of use, would it still have the same rating or would it be lower due to the long time use?

    As speakers age, depending on their construction and use (abuse) over their lifetime, they can fail when earlier in their lifespan they may have survived. Glues get brittle, surrounds crack/crumble, paper and plastics lose their flexibility, voice coils that been over-heated can short or completely unwind....not to mention fingers and screwdrivers going where they're not supposed to, cabs being mishandled/dropped and whatever else 20-30-40 years can bring.

    someone asked, how long does it takes to break in a speaker? A well known (at the time) speaker designer/manufacturer answered, 'speakers are continually breaking in thru-out their lifetime. Most noticeably occurs in the first few minutes of use for tweeters and certainly by the time 100 hours of 'normal' use has passed for woofers.
    However they continue to 'break in' until they eventually fail.

    To answer your question directly- I wouldn't worry about it really. Enjoy them as you would any speaker. If you hear distortion, pops and cracks, turn it down. If a speaker does fail, usually it can be repaired and brought back to 'like new'.
    If you have really crazy parties and like to throw things out of second story windows you can always buy another set. ;)
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