DIY Ultrasonic Record Cleaning Machine

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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,119
    A big thanks to @ER308L for pulling these kits together for us, and to @voltz for the hand holding (ha) during finishing parts and materials acquisition, cleaning solution mix, unit setup and configuration, and cleaning procedure tips. Was able to skip a lot of trial & error, which saved me a lot of time. Thanks for this opportunity, Brian - no way I would have been able to pull a DIY USRCM together on my own!
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    Nice Layout of pictures Scott! Now lets get some more cleaning done :p

    I'd send you box full of mine if the shipping cost wouldn't be so high.

    I'm just glad I don't have as many Vinyl as Red does.
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  • msg
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    I didn't know what to expect when I first ran the ultrasonic. I was trying to explain the project to a friend, and he said, "Sooo, you're cleaning something you listen to with something you can't hear."
    I told him to shuddup.
    Turns out it sounds a lot like this. Minus the guys buzzing about aimlessly in circles.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    edited April 2017
    ^^^^^I loved that game

    Right up there with Rock'em Sock'em Robots
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,119
    That needs an lol, as well as a like - how the heck could anyone love that game?!? We'd try it for about 5 minutes and then lose interest and start experimenting. No animals were hurt. But little brothers might have been rented out.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    msg wrote: »
    That needs an lol, as well as a like - how the heck could anyone love that game?!? We'd try it for about 5 minutes and then lose interest and start experimenting. No animals were hurt. But little brothers might have been rented out.

    5-letters my friend... BB-Gun ;)
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,052
    OK, so we can clean records with US units...how about drying clothes too!?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4428576/Ultrasonic-dryer-shakes-clothes-halves-drying-times.html
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,119
    That was actually a neat read. Interesting!
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I'm waiting for Brian to figure how to dry them too ;) I have faith in you!
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    voltz wrote: »
    I'm waiting for Brian to figure how to dry them too ;) I have faith in you!

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  • msg
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    Speaking of Friday night...
    Welcome to the weekend!
    Clean 'em up, and crrrank it up!
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited April 2017
    I currently have no Phono amp cause mine is boxed up heading to Kev's house for a 3 week trial :) so I'm all digital for a few weeks. but I can still clean some Vinyl ;)
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    You are dead to me.
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    voltz wrote: »
    I'm waiting for Brian to figure how to dry them too ;) I have faith in you!

    Funny you should mention that. I found these in one of the laser scrap buckets. So many possibilities. It's definitely going to be in the shape of a box, that's for sure. But I desperately need to build a new media center; I'm completely out of room. So this will have to be put on the back burner.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,052
    My GT Sonic has arrived but timing is bad. We just gutted our kitchen for a total make over and stuff is spread out everywhere...no room or time to clean. I'm just itching to do this but with crap all over the place I can't listen to anything even if it was cleaned.
    I will say the US unit is heavier than expected...a good thing I hope! I'll probably do a foil test just for giggles.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,119
    Baaah.
    Good info on the foil test though! I didn't know you could do that. Cool.

    I'm going to get the pipe thread nipple for mine today, and drain, filter, and store my cleaning fluid, since I'm waiting for some brushes. I'd like to run this test as well, since I noticed a variation in action in different areas with two records in the tank.
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  • vintageazaudio
    vintageazaudio Posts: 1
    Would love to buy one. Your setup looks like it would hold up better than the others I've seen offered on eBay and amazon. Are you making any more to sell?
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    Yes I will be making more around August. I sent you a PM. Thanks, I agree mine are much better built then others you see out there. Even with the webbing that the 3d printed ones have they're still wouldn't survive a fall to the floor. Where as mine would put a dent in your floor. lol This next go around I've figured out a way with our lathe to accept a larger billet so it can comfortably fit an inner and outer o-ring.
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,052
    It's been awhile since I put my hands on my cleaner(life gets in the way around here a lot!).

    Anyhow, due to some miscalculations on my part I am finding that I need to raise the motor and rotating eye piece about 5/8". Although Brian did offer some help he seems to have vanished. I can see how to raise the motor but have no idea how to raise the other end with the pivoting "eye". If I can't figure this out I'll probably offer up my "spinner" for sale and look for other alternatives.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • flyweed
    flyweed Posts: 2
    Hey, I know this is an OLD thread, and Brian, from the looks of it, is a deleted user..anyone know where I can pick up a kit like this? I want to put together a DIY ultrasonic LP cleaner of my own, without breaking the bank. Thanks for any info you guys can give me.
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  • msg
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    Ohhhh Briiiiiii-annnnnnn, yooo-hoooo!
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  • stainless0steel2
    stainless0steel2 Posts: 193
    ^Gracias^
    Ok @flyweed my plate is a little full right now. I've got my SDA 2b's I'm finishing up. And I've got this old sewing machine (don't judge) my mom wants refurbished.
    Things seem to be at a manageble point at work where I could pull off another run. I'd like to do it mid to late February. You know the time people start to get their tax returns...
    So anyone who reads this, message me so I can add you to the ever growing list. :)
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  • flyweed
    flyweed Posts: 2
    Brian, SO glad you are still on here. Shoot me a message on price, etc. And add me to the list. I'd LOVE to get one. Thanks much. OH and Mid to late February is perfect timing for me. :)
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 3,052
    Just finished cleaning my final(for now) record. Took a while but I got through the 245 albums we currently have. Now I don;t have to limit myself to the "already cleaned" batch when deciding on what to play. Thanks again to Brian for helping me in my time of need :)
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • stainless0steel2
    stainless0steel2 Posts: 193
    muncybob wrote: »
    Just finished cleaning my final(for now) record. Took a while but I got through the 245 albums we currently have. Now I don;t have to limit myself to the "already cleaned" batch when deciding on what to play. Thanks again to Brian for helping me in my time of need :)

    Sorry I just stumbled across your comment. Thats awesome! I'm glad the green machine is hard at work.
    And anytime man always happy to help :)
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  • jimf42
    jimf42 Posts: 2
    edited February 2018
    I bought the 6L ultrasonic you use, plus the Cleaner Vinyl rotater kit for 2 records. (I did not have time to build my own). The system works great. I have found no issue of the labels getting wet. I also use distilled water and PhotoFlo, but add a very small amount of Dawn dishwashing liquid. It is very gentle, particularly in the quantities we are talking about. I know a watchmaker who uses it in his ultrasonic for delicate parts, even dials. The only issue I have found is it is noisy. I set it at 36deg C and run each group of two records for 15 minutes. The ultrasonic cleaner is sold under several different names on eBay and Amazon for between about $110 and $125.
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  • jimf42
    jimf42 Posts: 2
    When I bought mine, there was an option of a 1 yr warranty for about $4...I bought it. My first one purchased on Amazon failed out of the box and I received a refund pretty quickly. I have been running my current one for several weeks and have cleaned about 75-100 records as I get a chance.

    On a side note, I am seeing a number of this type of cleaners crapping out within a month or two of purchase. It is too early to tell whether there is common cause for the short lifespan or if it is a single maker as many of these are unbranded, but I would suggest keeping track of hours used so that if this happens to you, proof of usage is readily at hand for any type of return or warranty needed.

    Not intended to be a thread crap at all, just something that I have run into researching the type of RCM to invest in.

    On a positive note, this type of cleaner seems to beat all others in the area of static control.[/quote]

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  • stainless0steel2
    stainless0steel2 Posts: 193
    @verb I like your idea of creating a long partial piece of all thread. Unfortunately it would be very difficult to turn on a lathe considering the length. But if I could friction weld all thread to round stock, that'd be a different story. But I don't think they want me trying that on our lathe. Lol
    https://youtu.be/-aEuAK8bsQg
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  • muncybob
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    OK, a "bump" to hopefully bring some of the conversation in Brian's FS thread here regarding possible mods for him to consider going forward. Some interesting thought so far on how to torque the label protectors.

    Most of my labels that did get wet showed no adverse signs after dried but a few did. I do have a set of protectors that use an o-ring in each side and they are meant to be torqued together with a screw type set up(at a loss for words on exactly what it is).

    You can really get it tight and no water gets in at all even under s strong stream. Using the diy set up I have from Brian(I think it was his prototype?) you cannot use that but you can get them fairly tight and there is no doubt about it, the o-rings do offer better protection.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    stainless0steel2 wrote: »
    @verb I like your idea of creating a long partial piece of all thread. Unfortunately it would be very difficult to turn on a lathe considering the length. But if I could friction weld all thread to round stock, that'd be a different story. But I don't think they want me trying that on our lathe. Lol
    https://youtu.be/-aEuAK8bsQg

    Yep agreed. Probably have to make it 3-piece. Smaller female threads at the ends of the threaded rod. And male threaded ends on the smooth parts of the rod.

    Thanks for the feedback! Awesome invention!
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