Parasound Pre-amps 2100 vs P5

DaveHo
DaveHo Posts: 3,525
edited March 2016 in 2 Channel Audio
I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going to have space for a dedicated 2 channel system any time in the near future. So, I'm looking at these two pre-amps to get the most out of my HT system which is soon to include a pair of LSiM 705s.

Who has heard both? How much better is the analog section of the P5? If I add a good DAC to the 2100 could the combination be comparable to using the DAC in the P5? What about the phono pre-amps? Currently using a Cambridge 640P. No need for balanced connections so that doesn't really factor into the decision.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2016
    I haven't heard either, but after owning numerous parasound pieces usually even their entry level stuff is very respectable and hits way above its weight. You might want to consider an older model/higher-end para pre in the used market.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,897
    I own a P5 not heard the 2100. The DAC in the P5 is very good. The phono pre is good, not great. The P5 analog section is outstanding. You might find the HT bypass on the P5 very useful also. Of course all this IMHO.
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited March 2016
    I will have a mint silver P5 for sale very shortly if you want to pm me.
  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    I have had both... The P5 sounds much more refined but for the $$$ the 2100 is a great value. Get the best you can afford.
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  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    I have a P5 (black) and a second one (silver) that will be arriving soon from AA for the bedroom. I was also on the fence about getting the 2100, since I am not ashamed to save a few bucks. From various info I read in researching this, the sound quality is not a huge step up with the P5. What made me go with the P5 was the DAC built in and the balanced connectors which the 2100 lacks. Both these features will be used in my bedroom rig. If you don't need these features or already have a DAC, you probably would be fine with the 2100 and could save a few dollars.
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  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    breal74 wrote: »
    I will have a mint silver P5 for sale very shortly if you want to pm me.
    What a shame, I just order a 2nd P5 (silver) from AA. I would have enjoyed taking yours off your hands at a reduced price. :neutral:
    Living Room
    Parasound Model 2250v2 amplifier
    Parasound P5 preamp
    Turntable 1 - Technics SL-1210Mk2 turntable with Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Turntable 2 - Dual 1229 turntable, Dual AS-12 45 RPM stacker, Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Schiit Mani Phono Preamp for Turntable 2
    Oppo UDP-205 CD/SACD USB and FLAC duties
    Technics RS-1500US reel to reel
    Polk SDA SRS (2nd Gen) fully modded
  • ukcolin99
    ukcolin99 Posts: 286
    I know very little about audio (or women), I know I love my 705's.
    If you like data, stereophile.com has a review of the P5 & measurements that support P5 is great for analog not so much for digital.
    I switched to Cambridge 851D as a pre for my 100% iTunes sourced ALAC music, I am pretty sure I hear an improvement.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Hey Collin,
    My understanding is the 851D is a dac, which can be used as pre also. Adding a dedicated pre might offer you more in SQ. I know killing 2 birds with one stone is appealing, especially to the wallet, but if you want to up your game add a pre amp, preferably a tubed one. ;)

    The p5 used at around 800 bucks is a good bargain for SS pre's, and older ears.
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,525
    Well, this thread is now OBE. Bought Brian's P5. I've been using an AVR or Pre/Pro for 2 channel in my combined system for a long time. This, along with the 705's, is going to be a huge upgrade. I'm pumped!!
  • Realistic
    Realistic Posts: 355
    Good for you man, you wont regret buying it, I know I haven't .
  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    I can't wait to hear your impressions of the P5 and I'm glad it stayed in the Polk family. Happy Easter Dave!
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    Parasound is huge bang for the buck.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,897
    My P5 was one of my most intelligent audio purchases I have made, ever.
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    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.