CDP Review
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Just for the sake of saying it later - These are my observations, on my equipment, to my ears, yada, yada. After using it for over a month it was time for this here at CP.
First off I've had a few CDP's which include my first, a very early Marantz evidently when they were junk as I returned it within a week because the drawer quit working. Next up was a Hitachi DA-009 which was a good player back in 1989. After that was a Nakamichi CDP 3, a good sounding player but reliability issues galore. Next was a cheaper Onkyo which sounded good and never let me down. After that was an Onkyo DV-S555 (my first foray into DVD's) which did well with CD's. This unit also never let me down but was burnt up when a company spiked the power line to our house and burnt it up, along with other appliances. After this was the NAD C542 which went to Conradicles, good sounding player with, again, reliability issues. So..., after these experiences I had to choose another CDP.
After reading many reviews (there weren't that many for my new player) I finally decided upon the one I now own. I have no SACD's, only two HDCD's and was not into any other formats. I also don't do anything in the digital realm. I just needed a straight CDP, a good one.
As for the review I've never heard so much detail but mostly it's the depth that is really hitting me. As far as the detail I'm hearing things now I never knew were in the music before, seeing as I've owned most of my "go to" CD's for many years now. As far as the depth goes I've never heard anything quite like it. I could place instruments before, left to right and inbetween, but now I can visualize them in a particular spot. More forward or farther back and how much energy the person playing is putting into the instrument. As an example, when there is a flute solo I can actually tell how much breath the person has left and when they take their lips away (it helps I used to play a couple different instruments). More "live" if you will. Separation is wonderful. Just when you think it's going to come apart and not come back together it comes back together wonderfully. The flow is spot on. This CDP is by far the nicest and best built CDP I've ever had..., it should be.
So..., after careful consideration and since I usually want to be different I decided on a brand that has never let me down, with pretty much anything in that brand I owned over these many years. It helped the wife swallow it as well since she knows this info. I've also never seen this unit as a refurb or for sale used. I know some will think I was insane but, what the heck. What is it?
Onkyo C-7000R. At almost 27 lbs it's the third heaviest piece of equipment I've ever owned. From the un-boxing it screamed quality. The power cord supplied is bigger than the one I got with my amp (not that it matters). I know most will never consider this CDP as the cost is high and it's made by "Onkyo" but it is a nice machine. For my uses it's the cats axx and I couldn't be happier!
First off I've had a few CDP's which include my first, a very early Marantz evidently when they were junk as I returned it within a week because the drawer quit working. Next up was a Hitachi DA-009 which was a good player back in 1989. After that was a Nakamichi CDP 3, a good sounding player but reliability issues galore. Next was a cheaper Onkyo which sounded good and never let me down. After that was an Onkyo DV-S555 (my first foray into DVD's) which did well with CD's. This unit also never let me down but was burnt up when a company spiked the power line to our house and burnt it up, along with other appliances. After this was the NAD C542 which went to Conradicles, good sounding player with, again, reliability issues. So..., after these experiences I had to choose another CDP.
After reading many reviews (there weren't that many for my new player) I finally decided upon the one I now own. I have no SACD's, only two HDCD's and was not into any other formats. I also don't do anything in the digital realm. I just needed a straight CDP, a good one.
As for the review I've never heard so much detail but mostly it's the depth that is really hitting me. As far as the detail I'm hearing things now I never knew were in the music before, seeing as I've owned most of my "go to" CD's for many years now. As far as the depth goes I've never heard anything quite like it. I could place instruments before, left to right and inbetween, but now I can visualize them in a particular spot. More forward or farther back and how much energy the person playing is putting into the instrument. As an example, when there is a flute solo I can actually tell how much breath the person has left and when they take their lips away (it helps I used to play a couple different instruments). More "live" if you will. Separation is wonderful. Just when you think it's going to come apart and not come back together it comes back together wonderfully. The flow is spot on. This CDP is by far the nicest and best built CDP I've ever had..., it should be.
So..., after careful consideration and since I usually want to be different I decided on a brand that has never let me down, with pretty much anything in that brand I owned over these many years. It helped the wife swallow it as well since she knows this info. I've also never seen this unit as a refurb or for sale used. I know some will think I was insane but, what the heck. What is it?
Onkyo C-7000R. At almost 27 lbs it's the third heaviest piece of equipment I've ever owned. From the un-boxing it screamed quality. The power cord supplied is bigger than the one I got with my amp (not that it matters). I know most will never consider this CDP as the cost is high and it's made by "Onkyo" but it is a nice machine. For my uses it's the cats axx and I couldn't be happier!
Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me
Comments
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As long as it blows your skirt up, so what. Nice review and keep rockin' it.HT SYSTEM-
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they are nice players. Nice review it is always nice when you get a good piece of gear and then you realize just what we try to speak of here. Like you're in the room with them so to speak
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It's great to pick up a piece that does that for you.
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I just looked up the specs on the player. Nice stuff!!!! Onkyo has been getting back in the 2 channel game for a little bit.Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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As long as it blows your skirt up, so what. Nice review and keep rockin' it.
Well, I don't have a skirt, a kilt?..., um...I just looked up the specs on the player. Nice stuff!!!! Onkyo has been getting back in the 2 channel game for a little bit.
They made the effort but the crowd nowadays wants jack of all trades machines I think, for an obviously much cheaper price. There's always the varying different outboard DAC's as well (which I thought of messing with, for a short time). I don't mind spending money every once in a blue moon if it's a quality piece. If I ever want to delve into another format, like SACD (which I doubt), my Yammi BDP can wet my whistle for that. It's a jack of "almost" all trades machine...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
you know what I do not understand is the "multi-thousand dollar players that do not have SACD capability....what the heck WHY? I know that when and If I shop for one IT WILL HAVE that capability. Why would you limit your audience as most who could afford your player more than likely will be into SACD as well....
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Well..., since my audience is for "one"... I know what you are saying as most on here would/will say over and over again. I, personally, have no desire to get into another format for the foreseeable future. If I'm not pushing up daisies yet and in 10-15 years I want to get into it, maybe I will, if it's still around. I don't get why people spend thousands on TT stuff either (I wouldn't) but if it floats their boat it doesn't bother me. If it did I wouldn't spend my time telling them though...Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me
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Nice Review! Glad your enjoying it, I didn't think they made CD players that heavy
Just today I got in a SACD of Wishbone Ash Argus and wow the difference is very much noticeable between it and the CD ...but we are talking about a $40 SACD compared to a $5 CD. is it worth the extra detail in the music for the extra cost?
each person must answer that themselves
Your new Onkyo sounds like Skips AMR (hope I got that right), would love to hear it someday. As the extra detail your hearing sounds like SACD!
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Congrats on a really nice Redbook spinner!
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Thanks for the nice comments. I know a CDP like this is certainly a restricted market (to say the least) but figured someone on here might want to know a little about how it worked out for me, regardless of what others think...
Eric - How's that NAD working out? Get it fixed yet?Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me -
Just looked this model up on ebay,wow, that unit looks solid and reference quality. That was a fantastic review above, mentioning the players you have had in your journey, thank you for your honesty and opinion.
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