Monitor 10b XO upgrade questions

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edited January 2016 in Vintage Speakers
Finally decided to put the crossover upgrade into motion a few days ago. I opened them up to find that I seem to have two different crossovers. I'm not sure if it really matters because replacing all that anyways.
My main question is the copious amounts of hot glue covering the binding posts. I scanned over some other discussions regarding the crossovers and didn't see anybody mention running into this barbaric substitute for a lock washer. Any ideas on how to get it out of there so I can replace the posts as well?07rj2odr26wv.jpg

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    Use needle nosed pliers to pull off glue it will come off fine. I do not see any mis-match I do see different looking but same value caps. Both yellow caps are 12uf. The binding post can be switched easily you will need to enlarge the hole with better post. Better picture to see this "lock washer" either way remove glue and unscrew its that easy.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,551
    Soak the hot glue with denatured alcohol and it peels right off. The hot glue is used to provide an air tight seal. Therefore, after you replace the posts you need to reseal them with fresh hot glue.

    As Ivan stated, your crossovers are the same.
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  • F1nut wrote: »
    Soak the hot glue with denatured alcohol and it peels right off. The hot glue is used to provide an air tight seal. Therefore, after you replace the posts you need to reseal them with fresh hot glue.

    As Ivan stated, your crossovers are the same.
    Cool thanks guys.
    Ok now the glue makes sense. In that case I think I'll cut out some small gaskets instead of using glue again.
    I was looking and I found that I have two sets of speakers one from 83' and the other from 87' which would explain the difference in the caps and polyswitch.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    There is no reason to not use the hot melt glue it works very good and also keeps the nut from coming loose.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    Hey Brian, what they all said... Even putting hot glue on your new caps, and resistors will help in vibration..

    Do you need to borrow my soldering station??
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,551
    Larry, I wouldn't put hot glue on a resistor as it will impede its ability to disperse heat.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,441
    edited January 2016
    F1nut wrote: »
    Larry, I wouldn't put hot glue on a resistor as it will impede its ability to disperse heat.
    True at one time there was a great picture of what happens when you do, but it was on the old forum. 3 m, locktite and scotch make great 2 sided high bond tape to use if you so desire for all but resistors if you do not want hot melt glue
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  • Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Hey Brian, what they all said... Even putting hot glue on your new caps, and resistors will help in vibration..

    Do you need to borrow my soldering station??

    That'd be a big help! I won't need it for a couple weeks though. I'm still slowly ordering everything I need.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,551
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    True at one time there was a great picture of what happens when you do, but it was on the old forum. 3 m, locktite and scotch make great 2 sided high bond tape to use if you so desire for all but resistors if you do not want hot melt glue

    Yep, I mount them slightly off the board with a very small piece of 3M VHB tape at either end. That allows for good air flow while providing damping.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    F1nut wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    True at one time there was a great picture of what happens when you do, but it was on the old forum. 3 m, locktite and scotch make great 2 sided high bond tape to use if you so desire for all but resistors if you do not want hot melt glue

    Yep, I mount them slightly off the board with a very small piece of 3M VHB tape at either end. That allows for good air flow while providing damping.

    Don't know what I was thinking, that's how I have always done mine as well.. :-(

  • F1nut wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    True at one time there was a great picture of what happens when you do, but it was on the old forum. 3 m, locktite and scotch make great 2 sided high bond tape to use if you so desire for all but resistors if you do not want hot melt glue

    Yep, I mount them slightly off the board with a very small piece of 3M VHB tape at either end. That allows for good air flow while providing damping.

    What about adding some silicone to each end? I have a tube of that.
  • nbrowser wrote: »
    ER308L wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    True at one time there was a great picture of what happens when you do, but it was on the old forum. 3 m, locktite and scotch make great 2 sided high bond tape to use if you so desire for all but resistors if you do not want hot melt glue

    Yep, I mount them slightly off the board with a very small piece of 3M VHB tape at either end. That allows for good air flow while providing damping.

    What about adding some silicone to each end? I have a tube of that.

    Silicone is bad on metal...offgassing causes corrosion on the drivers themselves and electrical connections.

    Well it sounds like the best option is a small gap and that 3M tape.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    Silicone and electronics is a bad thing..

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,551
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Don't know what I was thinking, that's how I have always done mine as well.. :-(

    Brain f a r t........a sure sign you're getting older. ;)

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    I have a hot glue gun you can use on your capacitors, I think I have some of that 3M tape as well..

    Brian, after you do this first set of speakers you will be hooked, and learn a bunch. I will help you as you go along if needed..
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,237
    F1nut wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Don't know what I was thinking, that's how I have always done mine as well.. :-(

    Brain f a r t........a sure sign you're getting older. ;)

    No doubt, big 50 in a few days :|

  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,759
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Don't know what I was thinking, that's how I have always done mine as well.. :-(

    Brain f a r t........a sure sign you're getting older. ;)

    No doubt, big 50 in a few days :|

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