Technics SL-1210MK5 Turntables?

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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,640
    I really like the TransrotorArtus -but- id settle for the Porscenium Black Diamond :)
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    The Technics 1200 series are all direct drive. I prefer direct drive over belt drive Technics made the most reliable turntables both direct drive and belt drive so keep looking I see Technics tables showing up all the time around here just not the 1200s.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,023
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I really like the TransrotorArtus -but- id settle for the Porscenium Black Diamond :)
    those sound like made up names, lol
    alright - after reading your earlier smart aleck post about the tt's to consider (10 most expensive tt's) I get it now :D and holy moly!
    I ordered one each, so I'll let you know how they sound. they look like good DJ rigs B)
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    The Technics 1200 series are all direct drive. I prefer direct drive over belt drive Technics made the most reliable turntables both direct drive and belt drive so keep looking I see Technics tables showing up all the time around here just not the 1200s.
    yeah, I'll keep an eye out. a good friend has offered to let me borrow one of his tt's to get going again, so that I can look around/research in peace :) so that'll buy me some time, and maybe Technics'll bring them back just as they left off, no tricks, and they'll be affordable. It would suck to spring for a used one only to find that I could have gotten a new one for the same cost or less had I waited a few months.
    voltz wrote: »
    I forgot about Joshua's tables, he was up at LSAF and his plinth made from "Blond Monkey Board" was slick! and he uses REGA RP series tonearm and platters I believe and he has many choices in woods to pick from.

    Scott you will find so many choices it can make you pull your hair out, and I don't have much left.
    hehe, yeah, I don't need that happ'nin either. it is a bit overwhelming.
    man, some of these custom ones are really nice, too!
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  • RamZet
    RamZet Posts: 792
    msg wrote: »
    dangit Randy... lol, I swear man, the deals you get :)
    I was looking at the SL-1300 you recommended, and it looks like it would work pretty nicely for what I need right now. I like the first version like you have, but not so much the MK2 version of that table. at this point, I kinda like tables with the strobe light, specifically red.

    just added this to my list for consideration. what do you think?

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    Wow, looks awesome.
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  • msg wrote: »
    Nice. Yeah, I think that's the conclusion I seem to be reaching as well. Pretty cool you managed to get two you're pleased with.

    Any words of wisdom for purchasing a tt on Ebay? I imagine there are a bunch of people just trying to cash in, and don't really know what they're doing packing and shipping wise.

    The very same advice I give to everyone trading on eBay(*and unfortunately in this NOW,NOW,NOW.Quick and easy,I don't want to have to wait or do any work to get what I want world that we live in. My advice often falls on deaf ears or blind eyes and then they almost always regret it*)

    R E A D
    READ the auction listings carefully
    READ the sellers feedback(*Don't JUST look at the numbers.READ what people are actually saying about this person*) Remember these are total strangers you are dealing with,whom you will never actually meet in person. unless you get lucky and find someone local selling a 1200. So the ONLY THING you have to go on is their feedback.
    BE PATIENT
    Don't be afraid to look at page after page of listings.
    Don't just jump on the first two or three that you see. ESPECIALLY if there are five or six pages of listings for this table(*and there usually are*)You may just find that gem you are looking for on page four or five.
    If not then don't be afraid to keep waiting.DO NOT fall into the trap of thinking that you won't get a better deal after this week!!
    You'd be surprised what may just pop up next month or in five months! (*ESPECIALLY after you've already bought one and then something REALLY good and a lot cheaper pops up in three weeks or months*)
    I waited an ENTIRE YEAR for a couple of things I bought on eBay,because I specifically wanted something with local pickup,or something that didn't have a major bidding war going on at the last minute, or from a seller with better feedback.

    Namely my SDA-SRS 3.1TL's and my Sony KD-34XBR970 widescreen tube tv.These ARE NOT items that anyone would be willing to ship.So I had to very patiently wait for someone within a reasonable distance that I could drive to to put them up for auction. In the case of the latter I had to rent a U-Haul trailer and hook it up to my car and drive almost a hundred miles each way. In the case of the former I no longer had a car,so I had to rent a mini van and drive a hundred and thirty miles each way to pick them up. So you can CLEARLY SEE these were things that I REALLY wanted and was willing to do some work and wait patiently to get. That of course varies from person to person.

    ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE you bid on something!!!!
    Seems like common sense,but almost every single time I put something up for sale on eBay,some genius with a college degree (*AND low feedback*) bids first and then asks questions after they bid?!?!?!?!?!?!??????
    Don't be afraid to ask for more pics if there is something that you want to see that is not shown!!
    If the seller has an issue with doing then,then move on!!
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,023
    that's good info - some reinforcement and some new.

    I was wondering whether there's anything particular to buying a tt that I should be on the lookout for, especially an SL-1200/10. Had my share of shoddy packing on deals, and a few sketchy refunds processes, so I've learned a few lessons there. I do agree about patience, and have seen exactly what you're talking about with respect to condition and cost with passing of time.

    Is there anything to be particularly mindful of when shipping a tt? I'm thinking they should be partially disassembled with parts protected? platter, dust cover, cartridge, accessories, etc.?
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  • Get one that comes with the dust cover and original mat.Also make SURE to get one that has the original box and instructions.Do not worry about getting a cartridge as they will likely be DJ cartridges not made for good sound.Also make sure you get one with the original headshell. Ask the seller to double box it (*as in put the original box inside another with extra packing material*) to protect from the shipping monkeys.
    Do you know how to properly mount and align a cartridge?
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,023
    Do you know how to properly mount and align a cartridge?
    hehe, heck no, man, but I've been reading up a bit lately. good notes, thanks.

    I *am* on the lookout for one that was used in a stereo environment and not in a DJ rig.

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    MoFi stopped making them for a while (*going out of business kinda does that*)
    Someone bought them and brought them back to life. I cannot recall whom,but they began making the Geodiscs again.VERY easy to use to align your cartridge!
  • Oh and by the way.If you see an auction on eBay and the pricve is in Italics It's because it's a foreign auction from another country.
  • Oh yeah and another thing.

    Since the MK5 was the last of the 1200's and had some features that the MKII did not. It is going to be going for a lot more than the MKII's or M3D's (*which was little more than a slightly upgraded MKII*)
    Whether or not it was used in a DJ environment isn't as important as how well it was taken care of (*which you can see in the pics*) These tables were TANKS and were built for abuse (*if you have ever picked one up to see how freakin' HEAVY they are*) See if you find one with the original RUBBER MAT.Not the felt slipmat. Believe it or not those mats made a HUGE difference in the sound coming off of the record.
    I am telling you all of this because like me a few years ago you seem to clearly have your heart set on this particular turntable................
  • msg wrote: »
    that's good info - some reinforcement and some new.

    I was wondering whether there's anything particular to buying a tt that I should be on the lookout for, especially an SL-1200/10. Had my share of shoddy packing on deals, and a few sketchy refunds processes, so I've learned a few lessons there. I do agree about patience, and have seen exactly what you're talking about with respect to condition and cost with passing of time.

    Is there anything to be particularly mindful of when shipping a tt? I'm thinking they should be partially disassembled with parts protected? platter, dust cover, cartridge, accessories, etc.?

    Lastly just so you know the two turntables came to me over a decade apart. One was circa 1999 when I was working at a Hi Fi shop and then second one was circa 2010 give or take a year.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,023
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    MoFi stopped making them for a while (*going out of business kinda does that*) Someone bought them and brought them back to life. I cannot recall whom,but they began making the Geodiscs again.VERY easy to use to align your cartridge!
    Oh yeah and another thing. Since the MK5 was the last of the 1200's and had some features that the MKII did not. It is going to be going for a lot more than the MKII's or M3D's (*which was little more than a slightly upgraded MKII*)
    Whether or not it was used in a DJ environment isn't as important as how well it was taken care of (*which you can see in the pics*) These tables were TANKS and were built for abuse (*if you have ever picked one up to see how freakin' HEAVY they are*) See if you find one with the original RUBBER MAT.Not the felt slipmat. Believe it or not those mats made a HUGE difference in the sound coming off of the record.
    I am telling you all of this because like me a few years ago you seem to clearly have your heart set on this particular turntable................
    Lastly just so you know the two turntables came to me over a decade apart. One was circa 1999 when I was working at a Hi Fi shop and then second one was circa 2010 give or take a year.
    Man, all great info here, thanks very much. I'll add the Geodisc to my list of accessories and things to check out for a turntable kit. I will admit, that's something I overlooked the first time I thought I wanted to get into this - the accessories require to setup and keep a table and vinyl collection in good shape.

    re: the features of the MK5 and MK2 - you know, it's actually got me thinking, and I think I'm realizing that I don't think I'd even use those added features, so I don't know that I necessarily need or even want a MK5 considering the difference for features offered. There are some things I like, sure, but I don't think I'll use the extra DJ features. So it's really only that I want a black table with RCA jacks, and I can probably just modify it to install a set of jacks myself, or hard wire my own cable and strain relief.

    the reason I would avoid turntables used for dj'ing would be out of consideration for the travel/jostling about, and for the consideration of use for slipping and such. I wouldn't rule it out 100%, but I would prefer something I'd know to be gently used in a home environment.

    Also along these lines, as Randy mentions above - there do seem to be several other SL models that are geared more to just hifi without all the dj functionality, so I'll broaden the search a bit to those. the SL-1310, SL-1510, and SL-1710, in their first gen iterations seem appealing, as well. I like the build design of any of these units so far.

    I need to read up a bit though to see whether the quality was still as good as with the 1200 series, or whether there was a decline in build quality at some point? If anyone knows anything about these other tables, I would welcome the insight. For instance, the headshell looks kind of cheap on this instance of the SL-1710. Otherwise, I like it. Clean. Simple.

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  • msg
    msg Posts: 10,023
    this article from Slash-Gear indicates that Panasonic intends to redesign the Technics turntable. I'm interested to see how this progresses, but kind of a bummer that it appears the good ole 1200 won't be coming back in its original form.

    http://www.slashgear.com/these-are-the-guts-of-panasonics-new-technics-turntable-06402177/
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