Bipoles/dipoles on back wall

Early B.
Early B. Posts: 7,900
edited March 2004 in Speakers
I'm considering acquiring a pair of Fxi30's for the rear surrounds (6th channel). However, because of my room layout, the sitting position is a couch that's on the wall. So since I don't have any room behind me, the rear surrounds would actually be hanging at ear level on the back wall.

Does anyone have a similar setup? Although not optimal, will it provide a decent diffusion of sound in bipolar mode? Would it be superior to the RTi28s?
HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    I don't think I'd put them at ear level ...

    Try them 2-3 feet up on the wall ... Try them on the ceiling pointing down ... Move the couch forward a little and try them on the floor or small stands pointing up.
    Rick
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2004
    I don't think I'd put them at ear level ...
    Try them 2-3 feet up on the wall ...

    Ear level in a seated position would be about 3 feet up on the wall...
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

    "God grooves with tubes."
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  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited March 2004
    He means 2-3 feet up from ear level. ;)
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2004
    You mean six to seven feet high? Yeah, it would be nice to do that, but it would look awful in my room.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited March 2004
    LOL ... Where do you have the side surrounds now ?!
    Rick
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    Ear level, no go, as aforementioned.

    If you are going 6.1, that's a single channel....not a pair, like in 7.1. You can certainly wire them appropriately as a pair for 6.1, and work fine, it's just not "standard".

    Is there a need for a pair? No. Pick a small center to fill the void, and bump it up as much as possible would be a suggestion.

    I think that a single center channel, TBD mounted, downfiring would work good, only if your structure permits. If you are constrained, as most of us are, you may have to be creative.

    Perhaps a pic of your room would help? Or the location area?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Early B.
    Early B. Posts: 7,900
    edited March 2004
    The reason I'm interested in using a pair of speakers for the 6th channel is because Denon recommends it. According to my receiver's manual, "Though the surround back channel only consists of 1 channel of playback signals for 6.1 channel sources, we recommend using two speakers....Using two speakers results in a smoother blend with the sound of the surround channels and better sound positioning of the surround back channel when listening from a position other than the center."

    The side surrounds are currently Rti28's on speaker stands on each side of the couch. I know that's not optimal by any means, but it still sounds better than 5.1.
    HT/2-channel Rig: Sony 50” LCD TV; Toshiba HD-A2 DVD player; Emotiva LMC-1 pre/pro; Rogue Audio M-120 monoblocks (modded); Placette RVC; Emotiva LPA-1 amp; Bada HD-22 tube CDP (modded); VMPS Tower II SE (fronts); DIY Clearwave Dynamic 4CC (center); Wharfedale Opus Tri-Surrounds (rear); and VMPS 215 sub

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited March 2004
    I know what Denon recommends, it was just a suggestion. Follow what method you feel is appropriate. I choose Dolby.

    I don't think the use of direct radiating speakers are bad in any way, and don't even recall that being an issue. Good luck, I am sure you will end up pleased with your end result.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited March 2004
    Just did this a month or so ago with someone in similar sounding room. I'll post link to the thread if I can find it.
    More later,
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