America is tired of black only hifi gear

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,053
    edited November 2015
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    Mikey081057 wrote: »
    I think Dan understands

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    I dunno --- looks like the perfect accessory for a Lincoln Navigator to me.
    (EDIT: I refer only to the cosmetics; I realize that D'Agostino has a grip on the electronics/sonics side, but way too self-consicously bling-y relative to my tastes).

    EDIT^2 heck, I feel apologetic about the garish cosmetics of the danged Chinese-made "2A3" (quasi-2A3) output tubes I use. I swear I'd use good old Amurrican made ST-envelope 2A3s if the "Sofia" branded thingies didn't sound so good...


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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
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    Mikey081057 wrote: »
    I think Dan understands

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    I get happy in certain unspeakable areas seeing this...ops...guess I gotta disinfect my keyboard now...
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,808
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    I applaud that D'Agostino offers a color choice, but not a look I like.
    Make sure to avoid them in person then. Pics don't do them justice.

    Yeah, the machine work on the silver version is special, but it's smaller than one might imagine.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,808
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    A few days after I started this thread a poll appeared at the Steve Hoffman forum asking for your preference, silver or black. To date it's pretty close to 50/50, which to me means we want to have the choice. My point all along.

    So, that begs the question. Manufacturers, ARE YOU LISTENING!?!



    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Jaybeez
    Jaybeez Posts: 748
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    My stuff isn't high end, and none of it matches. And I'm OK with that.

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    2 Channel "Polk" Room:

    Marantz PM8004 Integrated
    Marantz SA8004 SACD Player
    Music Hall mmf 7.3 TT with Ortofon Bronze
    WiiM Mini
    Schiit Bifrost with Multibit Upgrade
    Polk 7B with RDO198s
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited November 2015
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    Black gear matters. Silver gear matters. All gear matters.

    Personally, I want rosewood/burgundy to match my rack.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,808
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    Hey Rick, yep Marantz is one of many that think Americans only want black......very short sighted thinking. They didn't offer those black side panels here either.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,164
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    White Gear Matters
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,068
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    My Marantz 15s2b could be purple and I would love it just as much, but I think I would love it more in champagne, but since it's Black I still love it. Yeah Maranatz gear in champagne does have its appeal don't it?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,104
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    tophatjohnny wrote: »
    White Gear Matters
    ALL gear matters.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
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    Come on now, we all know Black is Beautiful!

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    When I get a silver piece I later regret I didn't get black. But, when I get a black piece I later regret I didn't get silver. Choice is a BAD thing!

    At some point they should make backlighted faceplates and cases that you can make any color scheme you want. Car audio does a little of this.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
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    design is where science and art break even.
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
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    It's economy of scale. Most people will buy black, so black it is. It certainly is the most logical color choice.
    If you want to pay more for smaller run pieces that are different colors, the world is your rainbow-colored oyster.
    design is where science and art break even.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
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    Once you go black, you will never go back.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

    The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.

    Imagine making politics your entire personality.
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
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    You owe me a monitor motorhead,lol.
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,164
    edited December 2015
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    White Gear Does Matter!!
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,104
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    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    Once you go black, you will never go back.

    I tried that once... it was ten years of pure hell.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,053
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    Thing is, they could make stuff in another color, and folks could just paint it black if they wished to... but I have it on good authority that black paint is hard to find.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,808
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    newrival wrote: »
    It's economy of scale. Most people will buy black, so black it is. It certainly is the most logical color choice.
    If you want to pay more for smaller run pieces that are different colors, the world is your rainbow-colored oyster.

    That may be true for smaller companies. However that's not the case with big companies like Pioneer, Marantz, Yamaha, etc. They offer black and silver gear in every country in the world that they sell gear in, but not North America. Therefore, economy of scale has nothing to do with it.

    Speaking of smaller companies, I noticed BAT has started to offer a choice of black and silver. Looks like Victor was listening, too bad others are not.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,053
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    True enough, and - I concur - disheartening (in terms of the mass-market companies).

    Historically, Japanese (massmarket) audio companies haven't always made the most sage decisions about what products to offer to the US vs. ROW vs. the home market.

    Perusal of www.audio-heritage.jp illustrates this poignantly (and a little painfully), I'd opine.

    E.g., I don't think Stereo Discounters was displaying these next to the Thrusters series by Panasonic.

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    (or, to be somewhat more apt and accurate, next to something like these)

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    or

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  • Gatecrasher
    Gatecrasher Posts: 1,550
    edited December 2015
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    Once you go black, you never go back (or so they say).

    I always liked black better. Both in audio components and speakers too. It's not that I don't like the rosewood Polks too but I just always preferred black. Every set of polks I've ever had were black except one.

    I really like the "piano gloss black" that the Pioneer Elite components have. Classy but hard to keep fingerprints off of. Just like a gloss black car. When they are nice and clean you can't find a better-looking one, but when they are dirty it is amplified.

    I also have a pair of piano gloss black Polk PSW650 subs. Beautiful.

    But I can see why there would be some demand for other colors. The audio manufacturers are going to produce what the majority of buyers want though and black is probably the top choice followed by silver.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,053
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    source: http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/new-additions-yamaha-cr-66ii-and-superscope-r-1220.266058/

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    source: http://www.audio-heritage.jp/YAMAHA/amp/ca-v1.html

    Neither was ever sold in the US AFAIK.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
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    And it is your favorite brand. :)
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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