many, many electrons boiling off cathodes tonight

mhardy6647
mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
edited November 2015 in 2 Channel Audio
Sittin' here with mrbiron's Reduction fired up tonight :- )

b&o TX-2 with MMC-4 cartridge feeding the Reduction. Pair of "Made in Holland" RCA-branded 6DJ8s stuck in there providing the gain. Reduction hooked to the trusty DIY Pete Millet active low voltage space-charge tube hybrid "linestage" and thence to the trusty ol' DIY (by AK's "Redboy") Angela Labs/JE Labs "Simple 2A3".

Speakers? heh. An almost-matched pair of generic 12" corner cabinets (Aristocrat wannabes, methinks) each loaded with an EV LT-12 12" AlNiCo coax.

Listenin' to Side 1 of the recent mono re-release of the Beatles' Revolver. The Beatles, for you youngsters, were a moderately popular British vocal group for a few years in the 1960s. They weren't bad.

They're sounding sweet 'n ' creamy as I type this... best of all, not a trace of sibilance. I hates me some sibilance.

Someone tell mrbiron to stop by & check out this thread, 'K?

Bonus: Google sez:
Sibilance is a manner of articulation of fricative and affricate consonants...

Yeah, I knew that.

frickin' frickative affricates...

EDIT: Rough approximation of the view from my chair -- the Reduction isn't on in this photo, but it doesn't really look like much 'cause them there high-gain, small-signal tubes, you know, they be shielded.

16187794927_269abfcf2c_b.jpgDSC_0132 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr


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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    Sibilance is a manner of articulation of fricative and affricate consonants...

    Yeah, I knew that.

    frickin' frickative affricates...

    [/quote]

    Better be careful -- you may be banned for that kind of language! :)
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited November 2015
    I tried to put a witty remark in here, but I couldn't get the "quote" functionality to work correctly -- or rather, as I wanted it to work.

    So, no witty comment from me!

    Let me just advise that using words like "frickin', "frickative," and "affricates" might just get you banned around here!
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
    I'm tubed too. They never sounded better.

    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    That's purdy.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    HEY!!!!!!!!!!
    Is it getting cold in here? Might hell be freezing over? Nope, just Nov in NE.

    Initial impressions versus your dated memory of the bugle2? :p As you might remember, my turntable is in hibernation so per the usual, burn baby burn.
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited November 2015
    I don't think it is quite as there as the Bugle2 but it sounds good -- better, I believe, than the Seduction (its predecessor).

    Now.

    1) I do have some high-res digital output from the B2; just need to play the same music via the Reduction and capture the result in the digital domain to have some ability to A/B.

    2) I do have a Bugle (orginal, unsuffixed version, that is) around here someplace I could compare -- but, of course, I never A/B'd the Bugle and the Bugle 2 when the latter came to visit (again, courtesy of mrbiron).

    3) I need to pull out* the Seduction and A/B it with the Reduction. I don't think the former will fare very well against the latter.. but it's worth head to head comparison.

    The worst thing I can say about the Seduction/Reduction is that they're short on gain. I think that does tend to bias me against the (inexpensive) Bottlehead phono preamps a bit (in the interest of disclosure). I haven't heard the good Doc B's premium phono preamp products, so I don't know what they're like.


    Oh, and speaking of full and complete disclosure. While I thought that the LT-12's woofer magnet was AlNiCo, it's very clear from old catalogs that it is, in fact, "Indox" ceramic. The tweeter magnet, however, is probably still AlNiCo. EV didn't start making "mud magnet" tweeters 'til much later (when cobalt prices skyrocketed). Mea culpa.

    * remember George Carlins' quip?
    "Pull out?! Doesn't sound manly to me, Jim!"
    ;- )

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802

    1. The LT-12. "New for '62" :- )

    060.jpg

    2. Many electrons but not that many tubes. Less really is (or at least can be) more.
    Two in the Reduction phonostage. Two in the hybrid space charge line-level preamp (which also has, in the interest of disclosure, soiled state buffers). Total of five in the power amp (rectifier, two voltage amplifiers and two direct-heated power triodes). Adequate as the blokes from Rolls-Royce used to say of their cars' horsepower.

    3. I spent two hours last night listening to very good quality FM stereo on VT public radio via a decidedly thermionic McIntosh MC-67 FM stereo tuner that I acquired a few months back. Not sure how many tubes it has... just enough, it would seem.

    4. The weekly Friday night jazz program on VPR last night featured a live-in-studio performance by a nonet (or is that nonette?). Live broadcasts on relatively uncompressed/unprocessed FM on a good tuner can (does) sound pretty danged good.

    Here's info on the program from last night, with a wee taste of the performance.
    http://digital.vpr.net/post/friday-night-jazz-better-angels-our-nature#stream/0

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    This is the line-level preamp I am using... the original audioXpress design Pete published (he's since done a major redesign -- both flavors are described on his great DIY site).

    hybrid_head.JPG

    Pete is also the keeper of the fabulous "tube books online" resource at:

    http://www.tubebooks.org/
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I'm took a break from my after work music session, to unhook my Hybrid gear and switch to my MC100B tube amp and going to let it warm up a bit before I finish the night listening to some more music!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited November 2015
    I listened to some more rekkids last night via the EV LT-12s.
    They have a Polk Monitor 10-esque midbass hump in these cabinets that is undeniable and unfortunate (a little bit too much resonance in male vocals) ... but boy howdy other than that "fullness" I do like these modest little coaxes.

    There's just something magical about coaxial/point source radiators, at least from my aged perspective :-P

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    Listening to a folk radio programme on VPR tonight called "All the Traditions" on the MR-67, same hardware as above but back to the Duplexes.

    The Duplexes do sound better.
    Boy howdy.