Ok so what's best on speaker finish?

HBombToo

I bought my RTA8T's back in 1990 and have only used a damp cloth for cleaning and they look great outside of the few unfortunate dinks they have from all the moving I've done.

IMHO they still sound as good and look as good as the day I first listened to them.

HBomb

F1nut

I strongly disagree with the statement that all wood furniture and speakers deserve wax protection. Wax actually offers very little in the way of protection and as long as the original clear coat finish (that is your protection) is in good condition you don't need to put anything at all on it. Wax is the weakest coating that can be applied to bare wood, that's one reason why clear coat finishes are used, they do offer a great deal of protection. Wax can reduce the damage from a glancing blow and it will raise the sheen a notch or two on a clear coat finished item, but that's it. Against water, alcohol, etc. it offers no protection.

"It gets scuffed, worn off and even oxidizes." Are you handling your speakers on a daily basis???

..."it does build up, but it builds up clear." Really? You should see the dark wax build up I remove from my clients furniture.

"Old wax can be removed with special products developed just for the purpose" A $2.00 can of paint thinner works just as well.

madmax

Originally posted by F1nut
Wax can reduce the damage from a glancing blow and it will raise the sheen a notch or two on a clear coat finished item, but that's it. Against water, alcohol, etc. it offers no protection.

Would using a wax do damage over time if you wanted a little more sheen and used it? Not knowing anything I used to use pledge on my furniture now and then. Should this be stopped? I have a table and a hutch which always looks a little nicer after using pledge.

I'm totally lost on what I should or shouldn't do now...

madmax

F1nut

I would recommend not using Pledge any longer, terrible stuff. About using wax, I should clarify. There is nothing wrong with using it, but it is not necessary. That was the point I was trying to make.

On speakers, one coat of a good paste wax (Renaissance is excellent) will probably last a lifetime and no, it will not cause any damage. Applying a coat every 6 months is not necessary and will cause a waxy build up. I use wax all the time in the shop, but when I do, it's to restore a old worn out refinish. All clear coat finishes have a life expectancy and there is not much one can do to lenghten it, however an old worn finish can be made to look better with a coat of wax.

On your table and hutch, the use of Pledge will make it shine for a short time before the oils/chemicals start to evaporate, but that's an artificial effect (like using Armor All), not the real look of the finish and that's why it starts to look dull again. The fact is that it's not dull, but the real sheen of the finish. Now, after a period of time the build up from a polish like Pledge will cause the finish to look duller and duller. When you used the Pledge did you ever notice how easy it was to smudge and leave fingerprints if touched? That's because the stuff just sits on the surface of the clear coat finish, it does not penetrate the finish.

madmax

So you are saying to leave it alone except for wiping down with a wet towle every now and then? It is a very pourous wood.

madmax

disneyjoe7

I agree, and thanks for clearing this up. I was really confused on your stand at first.

Thanks again.

Originally posted by F1nut
About using wax, I should clarify. There is nothing wrong with using it, but it is not necessary. That was the point I was trying to make.

On speakers, one coat of a good paste wax (Renaissance is excellent) will probably last a lifetime and no, it will not cause any damage. Applying a coat every 6 months is not necessary and will cause a waxy build up.

stevecramer2

Did F1nut read my entire post?? Seems not.

My post states it all and is completely accurate but F1nut is a hoot. I’m sure the lemming of the crowd might be able to follow his obtuse assumptions but us regular people can see the shallowness of the reasoning and the backhanded way he treat everyone who doesn't agree with him.

In F1nut’s world, he is the lord and master but he really isn’t wearing any clothes!

And if F1nut was trying to make a point, I’m sure he wouldn’t know it if it stab him in the heart.

Of course, with all of F1nut hot air, maybe he thinks we all like it blown up our skirt, pant, kilt or sarong?

Windbag come to mind when F1nut is on the line (-:





F1nut said:
I would recommend not using Pledge any longer, terrible stuff. About using wax, I should clarify. There is nothing wrong with using it, but it is not

F1nut

Hey Stevie, I got a hard on for you pal! Just what is your problem? What, you don't like it when someone knows better than you and slams you in the face for saying stupid stuff? You seem to cause a problem each and every time you post your stupid comments on here, so let me make this real clear.

GET LOST!!!

HBombToo

Steve you don't even know or tooooo ignant to figure out how to quote

I'm with F1 on this dude!

Later and I'm done here.

HBomb

stevecramer2

Oh, let us see what are f1nut problems…sorry to many too list.

But a short list is: small-minded, ignorant, mean-spirited and knows more swear words that real ones.

Plus f1nut appears to reads a little but doesn’t understand the English language every well. And of course F1nut is on a perennial power trip and need to have the last word about everything.

This is a ‘short’ list of course, F1nut.

HBombToo

Originally posted by stevecramer2
Oh, let us see what are f1nut problems…sorry to many too list.

But a short list is: small-minded, ignorant, mean-spirited and knows more swear words that real ones.

Plus f1nut appears to reads a little but doesn’t understand the English language every well. And of course F1nut is on a perennial power trip and need to have the last word about everything.

This is a ‘short’ list of course, F1nut.

Its time to chill and I catagorically disagree.

Plus you can jack with me all ya want on spelling cuz Is knows i be ignant... do you

twin

stevecramer2

HBombToo

Who are u? and why are you talking to me?

Please, those are only rhetorical question marks BTW so please just go away like a good little F1nut lemming.

F1nut

"appears to reads a little but doesn’t understand the English language every well"

You shouldn't make such a statement when you can't even get it right yourself, bozo. There is no "S" on "read!" Now, you should have put a "S" on the end of "need" in your last post and the end of "treat" in your previous post. So, what is it with you and the letter "S"???

I'll tell you want, wax up everything you own. It's your stuff, but don't come in here giving out bad advice and making trouble because I'll come down on you each time you do. Personally, I don't care what you think of me, why should I? You're nobody, never were, never will be.

BTW, The only short thing around here Stevie is the size of your manhood.

Jstas

Heh.

Funny stuff.

I'm not "coming to the rescue" of anyone here. However, mr. stevecramer2, I have watched you post here a few times and every time you get into some sort of argument or shouting match and the mud goes flying. You directly question F1nut's expertise in furniture finishes and then throw some subtle insults at him and expect him not to react?

I see so many people do this kind of thing on the Internet and then, as if it makes it all better, they tell the other person to "chill, it's just the internet man!" Yet they try and slander them by discountin thier advice and then questioning their character. It is very inslting and shows a severe lack of respect.

Ah the wonder's of the internet where everyone is a tough guy but no one has the balls to back it up.

F1nut is totally justified in being pissed over it. He treated you with respect and gracefully said that he disagreed with you and then told you why he disagrees with you.

No one is following a "lemming mentality" concerning this thread. No one is saying F1nut is a god. What they are saying is that THE GUY DOES THIS FOR A LIVING! If he is doing it for a living, you can rest assured that he knows what he is talking about because he seems to make a damn good living at it!

My own father has been building furniture and other woodworking projects since as long as I can remember. At least 27 years or more. He has a great deal of experience in finishing and protection. He verified everything that F1nut posted. I'd trust my father's experience over alot of people. I'd trust F1nut's experience over alot of people too. He hasn't steared me wrong yet.

If you can't handle the fact that a guy is respected in a community because he respects other people just as much then you need to check yourself. There is a difference between standing up for yourself and what you believe in and being and ignorant, arrogant **** that talks out of his ****.

Opinions are like **** though, everyone has one, some just stink worse than others.

Tour2ma

Jstas brokering the justice (that just may rhyme)... way to go...

Anyway now that I know F1's not a god, I have to list an altar and some associated carved trinkets in the Flea Market. Of course that's after I shine 'em up with a little Pledge...

And BTW steve, wax oxidization happens all the time... they're called candles. Have some of those on the altar, too.

hamzahsh

I use PLEDGE furniture polish for my speakers but once in a very long time.

thehalo8

I just got a responce from Polk yesterday on this topic....


Mike,
Cleaning the drivers can be very tricky because you do not want to damage the tweeter dome or the bass / midrange driver's dust cap. I would not recommend trying to clean the tweeters. You can clean the rubber surrounds on the drivers by using a soft cloth with a diluted glass cleaning solution. Be careful not to apply too much pressure while applying the solution. If you have any questions before attempting the cleaning, give us a call at 800-377-7655 between the hours of 9 AM to 6 PM Eastern time Monday through Friday and we will be glad to help.

Thanks,
Kim