Which receiver to get?
krt919
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in Electronics
Hello,
I am currently looking to buy a new AV receiver. I have been bouncing around between, Denon, Yamaha, or Marantz. I currently have Polk New Monitor 25C for center, 75T for fronts, and T15 for the rears. I am looking at Yamaha Aventage RX-A750, Denon X3100, or the Marantz NR 1605/SB5008.
I have been looking around for the past few weeks, and even have been to Best Buy to try out the different receivers, I can't make up my mind. Which one do you think will be good to power these speakers? I like the sound of Marantz NR 1605, but with 50 watts per channel, I don't know if it will be enough to power my front speakers. I appreciate any input at this point.
I am currently looking to buy a new AV receiver. I have been bouncing around between, Denon, Yamaha, or Marantz. I currently have Polk New Monitor 25C for center, 75T for fronts, and T15 for the rears. I am looking at Yamaha Aventage RX-A750, Denon X3100, or the Marantz NR 1605/SB5008.
I have been looking around for the past few weeks, and even have been to Best Buy to try out the different receivers, I can't make up my mind. Which one do you think will be good to power these speakers? I like the sound of Marantz NR 1605, but with 50 watts per channel, I don't know if it will be enough to power my front speakers. I appreciate any input at this point.
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The room size is 12×10, and I'd like to use for ht use as well as stereo for music. I want to spend around 400 and the models are around that price refurbished on accessories4less.com
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The little NR series do sound good for the price/size. but the power output, will be the issue.
If you can step it up to an SR series Marantz receiver, I don't think you'll be sorry. -
Thanks all! I have been looking at the SR series and going that step up, is it worth getting the Marantz, or should I lean towards Denon or Yamaha?
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Personally, I really like the sound signature from Marantz. Detailed, warm and a great mid-range.
My old Denon 2808 kicked the bucket and I have been borrowing a buddies Marantz while I wait to order a new receiver.
I find the Marantz, despite the fact it's only an NR series to sound awesome. But it is lacking in power, I have to really watch the volume knob. -
I use the NR-1603, an earlier version of the one you are considering. My room is approx. 16x24. The Polk 75Ts are listed as 8 ohm & 90db so I would think you would be ok given your room size and the 75Ts specs.
But.... more is always better.HT: Marantz NR-1603, Oppo 981, Def Tech SM55, SVS PB-1000
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Marantz will give you nice music and ht... wattage is meaningless to sound quality which is subjective to the taste of the listenerMy New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
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Mikey081057 wrote: »Marantz will give you nice music and ht... wattage is meaningless to sound quality which is subjective to the taste of the listener
I might disagree there pal. If your speakers aren't performing to their fullest, then Sound Quality will be less optimal. If they have the proper power, then SQ increases. Wouldn't you agree ?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
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Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
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lsi 9's -
I think for the size of your room, you'll have plenty of power with the NR, unless you like it REALLY loud.
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Mikey081057 wrote: »Marantz will give you nice music and ht... wattage is meaningless to sound quality which is subjective to the taste of the listener
I might disagree there pal. If your speakers aren't performing to their fullest, then Sound Quality will be less optimal. If they have the proper power, then SQ increases. Wouldn't you agree ?
Perhaps if the specs are/were correct and all things were measured equally. But manufacturers tend to talk smack about their wattage ratings... I'll take an honest well made receiver with 50 watts over a 1000 watt Pyle any day.
My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
Mikey081057 wrote: »Mikey081057 wrote: »Marantz will give you nice music and ht... wattage is meaningless to sound quality which is subjective to the taste of the listener
I might disagree there pal. If your speakers aren't performing to their fullest, then Sound Quality will be less optimal. If they have the proper power, then SQ increases. Wouldn't you agree ?
Perhaps if the specs are/were correct and all things were measured equally. But manufacturers tend to talk smack about their wattage ratings... I'll take an honest well made receiver with 50 watts over a 1000 watt Pyle any day.
But if watts didn't matter, or good power in general, why the preference ? All I'm sayin' is good quality power has plenty to do with SQ. If it didn't, we'd all be using receivers alone to power everything.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
While I can agree, it's not ALL about wattage, it can certainly make a difference.
As I said, I'm using an NR series Marantz right now. I will only connect my 806V's to it, no surrounds. Even with it running only 2ch and crossing over at 80hz (I usually crossover closer to 60hz), the NR runs out of steam quickly. I have to be VERY careful with the volume knob.
My old Denon had zero issue driving the 806V's crossed over at 60hz and surrounds.
A lot of it will also be the receivers ability to deliver current to the speakers. Better power supplies and caps in the bigger, more expensive receivers, help control the speakers.
One of the big reasons I suggested the SR series is that he runs multiple speakers. Once you start running a full 5ch system, the power ratings drop, quickly. Little receivers with little power supplies can only only run so much...
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Get a new Onkyo TX-NR838 they have plenty of power and are priced reasonably and well worth the money spent.Home Theater
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Best to select an avr with the features that you want with pre-outs and add a minimum 3 channel amp for the fronts and center to give you the SQ you want for music.My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160
Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |
ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4
Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |
Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |
Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |
Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's
Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's | -
My Marantz 8801 cost $850 with a $450 5ch amp it sounds divine. That price is on par with a receiver these days.