question about passive radiators, yeah after all these years

I get that it takes a bunch of air to move the passive to perform it's best and make any said speaker go down even lower than a hot bass driver. My question is if we all w/ vintage Polks deaden the air space w/ poly fill up top, Dynamat on the baskets and Black Hole-5 the most potent of deadening material known, how does this passive still produce unheard of slamming lows if all drivers are front firing ? Please if there is a math formula involved go easy on me I failed algebra 1 about 7 x and they didn't know what to do w/ me....

http://www.centerpointaudio.com/PassiveRadiators.aspx
2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    A Passive Radiator is nothing more than a different type of port. It has it's advantages and disadvantages

    http://www.aespeakers.com/PRFAQ.php

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    I'd guess it still works because the drivers are still producing cabinet pressure (which must be released via the passive moving). The polyfill, blackhole-5, etc is only in there to help reduce sound reflections. I don't think the fill would change cabinet pressure much either way...
  • leftwinger57
    leftwinger57 Posts: 2,917
    Finally, A real answer. Thank you that does make sense.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    That's my understanding too.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer