Distilled water re-wash?

afterburnt
afterburnt Posts: 7,892
I guess I saw a youtube or something using a spin clean with just distilled water. Does anyone think it is worth the effort to wash vinyl is just water? I already washed everything in the solution, 30 or so albums between solution changes depending on how funky the solution got.

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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,826
    I clean using a home concoction and rinse with distilled water.
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  • afterburnt
    afterburnt Posts: 7,892
    edited July 2015
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    I clean using a home concoction and rinse with distilled water.

    ok Bill clue me in, what are you using in your concoction?

  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    I think the ultra distilled is what most use for a rinse, not for a wash. Though, I am interested in the home brew cleaner too!
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    I wash and rinse as well. Distilled water and maybe a tiny bit of 91% alcohol.
    Some say never on the alcohol. The famed D4+ has Isopropyl (67-63-0)
    I'm not finding anything on the needle or record
    after play unless it was in the air. No residue if you will. (for the most part)
    I don't have a spin clean though. YMMV.
  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,826
    One part 91% isopropyl alcohol, three parts distilled water, half a cap of Woolite, and a few drops of Kodak Photoflow.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    One part 91% isopropyl alcohol, three parts distilled water, half a cap of Woolite, and a few drops of Kodak Photoflow.

    Is the photoflow used as a "wetting agent"???
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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,826
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    One part 91% isopropyl alcohol, three parts distilled water, half a cap of Woolite, and a few drops of Kodak Photoflow.

    Is the photoflow used as a "wetting agent"???

    Yes sir
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    One part 91% isopropyl alcohol, three parts distilled water, half a cap of Woolite, and a few drops of Kodak Photoflow.

    Is the photoflow used as a "wetting agent"???

    Yes sir

    That looks like a good mix. Have you been using it long?
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  • pumpkinman
    pumpkinman Posts: 9,826
    Not really sure. 8 to 10 years I'm guessing. I always rinse each side with distilled water. I also use 2 diff. brushes for the wash and rinse. Yes I also brush the rinse. I use the stiffer VPI brush for the cleaning and the softer denser Nitty Gritty for the rinse.

    As always YMMV

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    pumpkinman wrote: »
    Not really sure. 8 to 10 years I'm guessing. I always rinse each side with distilled water. I also use 2 diff. brushes for the wash and rinse. Yes I also brush the rinse. I use the stiffer VPI brush for the cleaning and the softer denser Nitty Gritty for the rinse.

    As always YMMV

    P-man

    I've got to start doing something better than just a discwasher, and am looking for ideas. Thanks sounds simple and effecient. Thanks
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    That's all I use in my spin clean is distilled water. Works fine. No need to wash and rinse unless you have some nasty vinyl and even then I doubt the spinner is gonna do the trick. For all my cleaning needs. Pure water does the trick. Saves money too.
  • [Deleted User]
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    I agree with chumlie that water will always be the best cleaner.
    I am doing this in degrees now depending on what is on the vinyl.
    I'm buying less nasty looking vinyl than ever.

    New gets DW and a vacuum (no hand brush or maybe felt brush)
    crusty gets my potion then a DW rinse
    (presoak) crusty with finger prints get a spot treatment of MOFI super record wash or
    D4+ for scratches and wait around for it to work...then DW on top or the
    potion...then a rinse w/ DW

    I've tried ONE cleaning solution and it helps with hand cleaning records.
    I've used (3 drops per 24 oz DW max) cascade crystal clear for rinse.
    I don't use it now as I have a record cleaning machine. That is why I was
    putting a tiny bit of alcohol in the rinse, to keep any bubbles down to zero.

  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    I'm very furtunate in my area with availability of vinyl. I have for 2 years now replaced my collection with nothing but mint or neer mint copys only! Half speed masters and original masters every time i find them, so i would like too keep them as nice as i can. I subscribe to the formula of 50 to 70 plays than replace them. As i have been convienced that there is a substantial loss of dynamics after 50 or so plays, so the idea of rejuvenating old "beaters" probably is not worth the effort.( i have tested this therory a/bing vinyl and im convienced! ) With patient's I've found must of what i want for critical listening.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I wash all my new vinyl also, my main wash is a concentrated mix from VPI (about 4 oz) you pour into a gallon of Distilled water, and then I follow with a rinse of just distilled water...

    but if its a old vinyl I just got I use a Enzyme plus cleaner and let it soak a minute or two..then vpi cleaner then rinse with water... but I only do this once, then if I choose to clean it again just VPI cleaner & Rinse.
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