Ripping CD's & DVD's ??
tophatjohnny
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http://www.whathifi.com/news/ripping-cds-and-dvds-illegal-again?
Now I have to stop with all the madness...........
Now I have to stop with all the madness...........
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Only in the UK, if I read that correctly.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Only in the UK, if I read that correctly.
Yes, but how long before they bring it here??
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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This will be another British import...lol.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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There are lawyers and judges in this country with nice music servers in their homes, either theirs or their children's. Do you expect they (or anyone else for that matter) will delete those files if this becomes illegal in the U.S.? I think not. This would also be a huge mistake if enacted here. It would be very unenforceable also.
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So what program does everyone here use to perform this currently legal operation? I have a bunch of DVD's that almost never get played but would get used more if they were on a drive.
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"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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And @tophatjohnny this appears to be a UK thing only right now......I've been away on holiday and come back to the news that the High Court has overturned last year's changes to copyright law in the UK, which allowed copying of films and music for your own personal use, either for backup or for format shifting to different devices.
Read more"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Rip vinyl! That's what Keiko does.
I am way good on the CD's. While ripping vinyl is great for those hard to find recordings, ripping the original CD's are the way to go for that Ooh ahh sound!!"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Extra tax on blank CD's, hard drives, and USB sticks? You can use these for things other than music, yet the music industry wants money on every one sold? How asinine!The music industry wants a tax to be applied to blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media, which could then be shared among rights holders. This system is already in place in some European countries.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Extra tax on blank CD's, hard drives, and USB sticks? You can use these for things other than music, yet the music industry wants money on every one sold? How asinine!The music industry wants a tax to be applied to blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media, which could then be shared among rights holders. This system is already in place in some European countries.
And again this is being discussed in the UK...
NOT HERE IN THE US"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
EndersShadow wrote: »Extra tax on blank CD's, hard drives, and USB sticks? You can use these for things other than music, yet the music industry wants money on every one sold? How asinine!The music industry wants a tax to be applied to blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media, which could then be shared among rights holders. This system is already in place in some European countries.
And again this is being discussed in the UK...
NOT HERE IN THE US
Well I'm in the US and we're discussing it?? Maybe you don't want to discus it Dan. There's lots of other threads to hijack buddy!!"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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tophatjohnny wrote: »EndersShadow wrote: »Extra tax on blank CD's, hard drives, and USB sticks? You can use these for things other than music, yet the music industry wants money on every one sold? How asinine!The music industry wants a tax to be applied to blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media, which could then be shared among rights holders. This system is already in place in some European countries.
And again this is being discussed in the UK...
NOT HERE IN THE US
Well I'm in the US and we're discussing it?? Maybe you don't want to discus it Dan. There's lots of other threads to hijack buddy!!
@tophatjohnny
Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. Discussing it is totally fine (obviously).
I simply wanted to point out that this ruling has no effect on us folks in the US right now, nor does the tax on stuff, so your good to continue your practice without fear of legal action here in the US as your initial post made it seem like you were not going to continue to rip CD's here in the US where it is still totally legal.
This doesnt mean it may not come over this way, simply that these ramifications do not apply to us just yet, but should be something to watch. My apologies if my comments were taken out of context.
Discuss away."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
EndersShadow wrote: »tophatjohnny wrote: »EndersShadow wrote: »Extra tax on blank CD's, hard drives, and USB sticks? You can use these for things other than music, yet the music industry wants money on every one sold? How asinine!The music industry wants a tax to be applied to blank CDs, hard drives, memory sticks and other blank media, which could then be shared among rights holders. This system is already in place in some European countries.
And again this is being discussed in the UK...
NOT HERE IN THE US
Well I'm in the US and we're discussing it?? Maybe you don't want to discus it Dan. There's lots of other threads to hijack buddy!!
@tophatjohnny
Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. Discussing it is totally fine (obviously).
I simply wanted to point out that this ruling has no effect on us folks in the US right now, nor does the tax on stuff, so your good to continue your practice without fear of legal action here in the US as your initial post made it seem like you were not going to continue to rip CD's here in the US where it is still totally legal.
This doesnt mean it may not come over this way, simply that these ramifications do not apply to us just yet, but should be something to watch. My apologies if my comments were taken out of context.
Discuss away.
lol, Dan you are a good sport and I was just poking ya. You can hijack my threads anytime u want buddy!! lol It's all so good!!"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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The legality of ripping copyrighted CD's and DVD's is confusing at best, nether the DMCA or Fair Use laws in the U.S. clearly state that you can make backup copies for private use, Depending on how you read the law it can be legal and illegal at the same time.
Here's a few links from legalzoom.com to confuse you even more.
DMCA Backup of Copyrighted Content
Copyright Law: Making Personal Copies
As far as what I use, whatever works
for DVD's
DVD Decrypter
DVD Shrink
DVD HD Decrypter
DVD Subedit
IfoEdit
PgcEdit
CD's
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They can make it as illegal as they want. But the truth is they will not be able to enforce it. Unless you decide to go to some official and confess to copying your cd's to your pc, mp3 player HD storage etc. nobody will know and can do anything about it.
Hell, you can go on to YouTube and download any song you want. If they decide to encrypt everything you legally buy to try to stop you, hackers will promptly find a way around it and put it on the web for everyone to use that's interested in doing so.
The plain fact of the matter is now that we are truly into the digital age, record companies, book publishers are simply useless middlemen who are slowly but surely losing their power because those who truly want to be heard are now doing it for themselves by self publishing be it music or books and keeping most of the profit for themselves as well as the rights to their works.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
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@cfrizz How true, In my opinion all encryption schemes are big a waste of time, money and effort that don't really work. Like you say as soon as they come out with a new one someone breaks it. It seems to be an endless cycle.“The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why.” ~ Mark Twain
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I could actually see this back firing for new media sales and musicians.
Say they start encrypting all media so not to be copied. That would force a lot of people to look for used copies to rip to media servers etc. Would also put greater value on pre/encrypted market.
Media server manufacturers would also take a hit. Might at well include the DAC sales too.
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I remember back when Microsoft was coming out with Windows XP. Was supposed to have this new fangled serial number encoding and authorization. The hackers had it cracked before XP's release date. Where there's a will, there's a way!
