Pop and crackle, new TT
afterburnt
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I have been having a ball getting into vinyl that I have not listened to in over 30 years. I have washed them with the "spin clean" and they never sounded better (lol, like I can remember that long). What is a good way to reduce some of the static, I want to hook up the usb and digitize some of my stuff. Is there a inexpensive easy way to reduce some of the noise?
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LOL, I have been doing that for years, most of my albums are duplicated on CD's that I have bought. Got a bunch that were never available on CD.Yeah. Buy the digital copy....
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the vinyl path you take can only lead to disappointment and heartache
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LMAO Red there is no way that will happen. The vinyl is just another aspect of the fun and on top of that I have a few CD remasters that suck compared to the vinyl despite the pops etc.rednedtugent wrote: »the vinyl path you take can only lead to disappointment and heartache
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I used this years ago but I no longer transfer my vinyl to CD.
I to have a ton of LP's that are likely never to be released on CD.
Bill
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pumpkinman wrote: »I used this years ago but I no longer transfer my vinyl to CD.
I to have a ton of LP's that are likely never to be released on CD.
Bill
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Bill I know. I have seen your pics of your library.
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BTW the last time I listened to this stuff on anything decent I had a Sansui sic receiver.
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Still look into the DaK computer program.
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Wow, not the one I had. Mine had a flywheel tuner, that was it back in the day lol.
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Are you sure the pops and crackles are caused by static? I know it can result in a sound that seems to be static, but usually it's not. If you hear the same pop at the same place it's probably not static.
I certainly don't want to cast any aspersions on the spin-clean, it's a step in the right direction. But, for real record cleaning with old records nothing beats an application of steam, a really good cleaning liquid with a well designed brush and vacuum finish. Like hand washing off road mud versus a run through a so-so car wash. The surface dirt comes off and you can tell what color the paint is, but it needs a scrub to look new. -
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Kenneth Swauger wrote: »Are you sure the pops and crackles are caused by static? I know it can result in a sound that seems to be static, but usually it's not. If you hear the same pop at the same place it's probably not static.
I certainly don't want to cast any aspersions on the spin-clean, it's a step in the right direction. But, for real record cleaning with old records nothing beats an application of steam, a really good cleaning liquid with a well designed brush and vacuum finish. Like hand washing off road mud versus a run through a so-so car wash. The surface dirt comes off and you can tell what color the paint is, but it needs a scrub to look new.
Right on Ken with steam cleaning or ultrasonic. I steam cleaned my albums until my little steamer broke. I need to pick up another one.
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afterburnt wrote: »BTW the last time I listened to this stuff on anything decent I had a Sansui sic receiver.
I've got one of those! Not mine, but same model:
My first decent stereo was based on a similar design Sansui, but solid state. This was around 1974-75. I had to replace the output transistors a couple of times, but I was an electronic technician then, so no big deal.
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The dark side is a path to music enjoyment that many consider to be.... unnatural.rednedtugent wrote: »the vinyl path you take can only lead to disappointment and heartache
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Could just be the records you are playing are old and wore out. Even brand new vinyl has some surface noise I have noticed.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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some of this vinyl has only been played at most a dozen times before I gave up and put them in storage. granted they were played on some crappy tt but are they ruined?
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I think he was being humorous in an opposite manner.
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Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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I listen to those Rush cd's you burned & sent to me. Simply amazingrednedtugent wrote: »the vinyl path you take can only lead to disappointment and heartache
I highly beg to differ. Vinyl and SACD are my go to choices for critical listening. And I will put up my vinyl rips to any factory redbook CD any day for SQ.
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afterburnt wrote: »some of this vinyl has only been played at most a dozen times before I gave up and put them in storage. granted they were played on some crappy tt but are they ruined?
If played with a damaged stylus, it doesn't take much to grind them up and ruin 'em. You should really consider getting a good record cleaning machine and getting your learn on. There's lots of good info on these boards if you search for it, and considering the advice given you already.
Check out the buzz on vinyl asylum. There's a wealth of knowledge to be had if you take the time to read up and listen.
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/etv.mpl?forum=vinyl
http://www.questforsound.com/analog/analog_vpiHW165.htm
In answer to your question in the OP, this is a good tool to eliminate static on vinyl. These static pistols are the newer versions of the ZeroStat and may not be as good as their older counterparts. I have an older, red model that I use after I give my records a thorough cleaning on my VPI HW-17. A few zaps and a quick swipe with an anti-static dry brush, and I'm ready to que.
http://www.amazon.com/MILTY-ZEROSTAT-ANTI-STATIC-GUN-BLUE/dp/B0033SHDSS
That's too much money. Can I just use Bounce dryer sheets instead?
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Sure... just tumble dry on high heat for twenty minutes and you are good to go.afterburnt wrote: »afterburnt wrote: »some of this vinyl has only been played at most a dozen times before I gave up and put them in storage. granted they were played on some crappy tt but are they ruined?
If played with a damaged stylus, it doesn't take much to grind them up and ruin 'em. You should really consider getting a good record cleaning machine and getting your learn on. There's lots of good info on these boards if you search for it, and considering the advice given you already.
Check out the buzz on vinyl asylum. There's a wealth of knowledge to be had if you take the time to read up and listen.
http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/etv.mpl?forum=vinyl
http://www.questforsound.com/analog/analog_vpiHW165.htm
In answer to your question in the OP, this is a good tool to eliminate static on vinyl. These static pistols are the newer versions of the ZeroStat and may not be as good as their older counterparts. I have an older, red model that I use after I give my records a thorough cleaning on my VPI HW-17. A few zaps and a quick swipe with an anti-static dry brush, and I'm ready to que.
http://www.amazon.com/MILTY-ZEROSTAT-ANTI-STATIC-GUN-BLUE/dp/B0033SHDSS
That's too much money. Can I just use Bounce dryer sheets instead?
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I don't know. I've never tried to clean anti-static.
I've heard (maybe not this brush) they can scratch
the vinyl. I wouldn't use it on my MOFI.
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Sweet, thanks Keiko!
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True. When I was thinking of it I was looking at around $20k for a decent entry level system (table, arm, cartridge, phono-pre, cables). Since I rarely listen to a total album for rock, it was just too much money, and too much trouble, just to play a song or two.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
There is no sane reason to get back into vinyl.
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I got to say that some of the old Motown that I have makes it worth it. If I can find more that is in great shape I will pay for it. Diana Ross and the Supremes is amazing. Basically a pristine album from 67???
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That's entry level? LOL! My vinyl setup, all in is about 5k and that includes more than a thousand lp's!True. When I was thinking of it I was looking at around $20k for a decent entry level system (table, arm, cartridge, phono-pre, cables). Since I rarely listen to a total album for rock, it was just too much money, and too much trouble, just to play a song or two.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
That's entry level? LOL! My vinyl setup, all in is about 5k and that includes more than a thousand lp's!True. When I was thinking of it I was looking at around $20k for a decent entry level system (table, arm, cartridge, phono-pre, cables). Since I rarely listen to a total album for rock, it was just too much money, and too much trouble, just to play a song or two.
I was looking at the VPI Classic 3 table, Parasound JC 3+ phono-pre, budget up to $5k for a MC cartridge, plus cables and cleaning equipment. Of course, one can easily spend over $100k for vinyl gear, but I just can't see it for me.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
I think it's funny some will pay $700 for a pair of speaker cables but it costs to much to get into vinyl. No need to steal from the kids college fund to get a great vinyl rig. Used gear and patience. My VPI 16.5 cost me $300 and had been used to clean maybe 20 LP's. You just can't get to excited and buy everything at once.
Here's a manual DIY record cleaner I made for about $80 for Shadowlight.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvF4aBLAn2Q
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