Anyone into Lifting , Pre work out post work out drinks?

ken brydson

Rum and coke works for me but i forget about the exercise...

tonyb

jeremymarcinko wrote: »

Long Story short, the pre-workouts do make you feel great, but they do not really offer anything in the way of gains. The attraction to them becomes more about the high you get, which may lead to a more effective workout, but also maybe not. There is obviously risk with them because, the proprietary blends of stimulants effects everyone different and not all ingredients are listed. You are rolling the dice with them. Don't think for a second that if comes from a nutrition store its good for you or safe to ingest.

This ^^^, great post Jeremy.

Just my opinion, but I think this whole sports supplement thing was created for a society that doesn't want to wait for results. You probably already have everything you need in your kitchen, use a blender which about everyone has, and make your own. That way you know whats in it, and you lower your risk of having adverse reactions to compounds you know nothing about.

I have many doctors and nurses in my extended family, the amount of people they see who want to bulk up in a short period of time because summer is 2 months away is staggering. Almost all are on some sort of powdered enhancer. Problem is, nobody wants to make the lifestyle changes necessary to retain good health and proper weight. They eat like garbage for 9 months out of the year and then want to hurry up and get in shape for summer.

Just speaking generally Dan, not saying this is your case or anyone elses. I think as we get older, at least for me, we tend to look at things with a skeptical eye. Mainly because we know that there are no shortcuts to life, no miracle pills or powder, no get rich quick schemes, or pie in the sky. However, it is your body to do with as you see fit....obviously.

cnh

jeremymarcinko wrote: »

I would stay far away from the stimulant based pre-workouts. You don't need them at all. A small cup of black coffee works all the same. If you want the "pump" effect of the pre-workouts then also supplement with l-arginine. I used to use the pre's all of the time, before every workout, for at least two years. I liked them so much I also began using them on my rest days just for an afternoon pick me up. All was good, until it wasn't, and I wound up in the ER. I was just trying out a sample of a new pre called 1MR vortex, and something in that "proprietary blend" messed me all up. I was dizzy, confused, breaking out in sweats, and then freezing cold. This cycle continued for about 6 hours after being monitored in the ER. I was completely out of it, for a while. Later on after I came back around, the nurse asked me to confirm my family doctors name because they couldn't find him in the directory, turns out I told them his name was Mitchell Shwartz, who was the right tackle of the Cleveland Browns.

Long Story short, the pre-workouts do make you feel great, but they do not really offer anything in the way of gains. The attraction to them becomes more about the high you get, which may lead to a more effective workout, but also maybe not. There is obviously risk with them because, the proprietary blends of stimulants effects everyone different and not all ingredients are listed. You are rolling the dice with them. Don't think for a second that if comes from a nutrition store its good for you or safe to ingest.

I haven't taken a pre in over a year and my gains have still been consistent. Keep in mind there is no shortcut to building muscle, outside of steroids. A natural bodybuilder in his twenties to thirties is only likely to gain 3-6 pounds of muscle a year MAX. It takes time, if you can gain three pounds of lean muscle a year over the course of ten years, or will be a very big guy. It really takes that long. Adding more weight than that will only add fat to your size. Also you need to learn how to cycle your bulking and cutting. You CAN NOT build muscle and lose fat at the same time. To grow you have to eat, and to lose fat you have to cut calories. There are many great bulking and cutting meal plans out there, I would suggest looking at some of those, so that you can maximize gains while not adding a lot of fat and then cut to maximize fat loss while minimizing atrophy. Natural Bodybuilding is a balancing act of being in anabolic and catabolic states. Take your time, don't get injured by trying to do to much. Its a lot harder to make gains when you cant lift due to injury. There are many good videos on you tube that offer some of the best bodybuilding advice there is, check out,

One of my favorites is "Scooby1961" on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1f0z5sGKDM&list=PL662508FFD2BB30CD&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFhEhglfgE

Scooby, good stuff, I'm a big fan!