Looking for a decent but inexpensive turntable

My neighbor's kid wants to get in to vinyl. He's discovered fun stuff like classic rock and has a penchant for classical music as well. He asked me the other day if I had a spare "record player" and I don't. I asked him if he wanted one and he said he did.

So if anyone has a decent but in expensive turntable they want to part with, let me know. May be able to strike a deal.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    Doesn't have to be new. Just looking for options but I'll look into that and see. Thanks.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2015
    Keiko wrote: »
    Might be time to hit up Papa George. ;)

    This! Mr. Grand has a ton of old TTs, or used to, some old Technics, Pioneer, Dual, or whatever else he has would be fine as a starter table. Heck, even some old higher model Ratshack LABs are OK. Especially a 400 series! And they're not much coin unless you try to pry one off ebay! lol

    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Jstas, if new....honestly....Audio Technica AT-60LP with or without USB, has a built in switchable phono pre if the system doesn't have a phono input and can be had for peanuts.

    I'll second the motion.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    edited May 2015
    other than the need to add an outboard preamp, I think the best buys extant for truly entry-level tts today are the last generation of "classic", although plastic-y, P-mount, belt (some were direct) drive tts sold by the major Japanese brands in the 1980s. The seminal example would be the Technics SL-BD20 and its kin. These are $20 tts at garage sales. They'll never impress anyone with construction values or cosmetics or mass or anything else -- but they'll play records adequately well without drama or damage.

    Everyone made tts like the SL-BD20 -- I pick 'em up whenever I find one for circumstances just like the OP's.

    PS the cheapest source of a (usually very decent quality) MM phono preamp may well be a neglected old stereo receiver dating from the 1960s to 1990s -- the cheezier, the better; just use the PHONO input and the TAPE output (or use the whole danged receiver if it all works & it sounds good).

    EDIT: Look at what KAB says about these (talk about hyperbole) -- and at the prices he charges for one! :- O

    https://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/ttables.htm
    (follow the "Technics preowned belt drive" link)
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    $179 is way too much.

    Kid needs less than a hundred bucks. Preferably 50 or less.

    mhardy's suggestion might do so I'll start looking around for that.

    I dunno if George still has piles of turn tables around. Guess I should ask.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,375
    I have an Onkyo CP-1046F with Shure cartridge available in really nice shape. Works great, only a few minor scratches on dust cover. 4urj4j1e864v.jpg
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    I have had it since new back in the early '90s. Still have the original manual, alignment gauge and parts to lock the platter for shipping. I could go $100 + ship.
    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • Easy Runnin
    Easy Runnin Posts: 501
    edited May 2015
    HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
    Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
    2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
    Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
    BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    Those three are all decent -- the SL-D1 is probably the pick of the litter (although it's not automatic; it is, if memory serves, fully manual).
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    Newegg is having sales of course for MD so if you want new...
    A ton to chose from. I thought vinyl was dead? :*
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,802
    Not dead -- "vinyl" (i.e., rekkids) are just like Frank Zappa is reputed to have said of jazz...
    [Vinyl] isn't dead. It just smells funny.

    ;- )

    New production tts are, I'd opine, mostly toys under $1k. Sad but true. The entry level Rega, Pro-Ject, etc. tts (ca. $500) are OK, but they're pretty nominal overall for a lot of money (i.e., they don't represent great value, IMO).

    The 1970s massmarket Japanese tts were well made and well engineered; if they haven't been abused they often represent -- even at today's re-inflated prices! -- very good value.

    Let me put it this way...

    I own one of these:

    12877794893_74ddf705f7_b.jpgTT15S12 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    but my daily driver is this:

    10022576516_78850a7425_b.jpgwhite vinyl by Mark Hardy, on Flickr

    The Marantz (a rebadged, somewhat pimped-out Clearaudio Emotion with a CA Satisfy arm) is packed up in its box :-P
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    What I really need is that Tascam :D
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,820
    xcapri79 wrote: »

    The cost of any decent record collection will easily exceed that.

    Listen, genius, I can't stand you already and every interaction I have with you astounds me because prior to each latest one, I didn't think it was possible to dislike you more than I already did. Yet you out do yourself every time.

    The kid has a record collection. It's his mom and grandmom's collection.

    He's 15 years old. He's working with an allowance and summer job budget.

    $180 for a turntable is out of his price range. Especially since we have to get the rest of the rig too. I'm probably going to end up furnishing him a set of KLH's out of pocket for him to use and I'm leaning toward an Oinker P-301/304 pre-amp and a tube amp kit. I'll probably be throwing $50 at his purchase of the turntable to help get him something reasonable since his budget for the turntable is $50 on his own.

    The whole reason I aksed here is because there are kind people here who have decent used stuff for good prices or who would be willing to take a small hit to help out a kid just getting into the hobby. Hell, my turntable I dropped just over $100 bucks on from someone here and I found out later than when new in the mid-80's it was considered a high-end esoteric unit.

    I'm not looking to take anyone for a ride but I know also that for $100 on a used turntable, we can find him something that will out perform your $180 suggestion handily.
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  • polrbehr
    polrbehr Posts: 2,830
    I may be able to help out with this, let me check a few things out and get back to you tomorrow.
    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


    http://audiomilitia.proboards.com/
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited May 2015
    John, your search is over. Drop by, or I'll drop something off. I have a few gorgeous Sony and Technics direct-drives, ready-to-play condition, from zero dollars up to about $30.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 10,716
    Mr. Grand is the goods.