RX-A3010 replacement

roost28
roost28 Posts: 39
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I am looking to replace my Yamaha rx-a3010 and am running all rti speakers in my system with a7's as my mains. seen as my system is for movies and music I was thinking of trying a pioneer sc-89 and am wondering if it is a better match for my speakers? or if I should stick with Yamaha? the Yamaha does sound good but I do find it is a tad bright sounding. my choices would be rx-a3040 or the sc-89 and am not running a separate amp. unfortunately there is no store around that happens to carry rti's and the sc series where I could go and give it a listen. I keep reading that the sc series receivers are a good match with the rti series speakers. any thoughts?
samsung un40eh5300
yamaha rx-a3010
oppo bdp-105
rtiA7, front
csiA4, center
rtiA1, front presence
rtiA1, surrounds
PSW 505, sub
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    Marantz AVRs might be a good match with your RTi's.

    SR7008 maybe?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    Personally, I don't find much differences in the higher end receivers sound quality wise. Your Yamaha isn't as bright as it's lower level siblings. Maybe try warmer sounding cables with your gear, that might take some of that brightness away. Kimber is a good cable that I would match up with RTI's any day. Just don't think your going to get the desired effect with a different receiver. Just my .02
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    And an amp for the mains.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Does it only sound bright to you at high volumes or all volumes?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    I run an all rti setup, with the rx-a1010 and an ext. amp for the mains, it is not bright at all in my space. Admittedly my room is very balanced, or maybe a tad on the dead side. My point is the problem isn't likely to the 3010, but rather an energetic room. The rti series have a flat frequency response curve that can sound bright in energetic/ reflective rooms. I would recommend following Tony's advice and using some cables to tone down the problem Hz. Cable aside, room treatment may be in order or consider external amplification that will not only provide a much improved presentation, but can offer a warmer sound signature, to help offset some of your rooms high Hz energy.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • roost28
    roost28 Posts: 39
    It is at higher volumes, i never really thought about trying different cables. i have considered maybe trying an amp for the mains. How would cables affect the sound?
    samsung un40eh5300
    yamaha rx-a3010
    oppo bdp-105
    rtiA7, front
    csiA4, center
    rtiA1, front presence
    rtiA1, surrounds
    PSW 505, sub
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    It's bright at higher volumes because the amp is running out of steam. If you're not clipping your close to it. You need a higher powered/current amp for your listening level, IMO.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    I dunno guys, his receiver is pretty beefy and driving A7's ? Maybe we should determine what "higher volumes" is exactly. Like where do you go on that volume dial ?

    If he's hanging out on the + side of the dial, an amp isn't going to help him. Any speaker will benefit from a good amp added to the mix, but control of that volume dial is just as important if not more so.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • deronb1
    deronb1 Posts: 5,021
    Tube buffer, cables, or both.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    Or, could be time for the OP to consider a hybrid HT/Music system using an integrated amp with HT Bypass to drive the Fronts.

    I'm not a fan of using an AVR as the 'heart' of a music based system.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • roost28
    roost28 Posts: 39
    I don't think the amp is running out of steam, at higher volumes I mean around -20 on the volume, I never go on on the +side of the dial. The highest I have ever gone is -8. I know you can't beat a good seperate amp but as far as avrs go this thing has lots of balls. I'm just looking for a slightly warmer sound and thought that maybe the sc-89 would do that.
    samsung un40eh5300
    yamaha rx-a3010
    oppo bdp-105
    rtiA7, front
    csiA4, center
    rtiA1, front presence
    rtiA1, surrounds
    PSW 505, sub
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    what can you tell us about the room? Dimensions, flooring material. Etc.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • roost28
    roost28 Posts: 39
    the room is about 20x20 open concept with drywall and carpet with an 8' ceiling and a large window, it is our living room and not a dedicated room so there are no treatments or anything like that.
    samsung un40eh5300
    yamaha rx-a3010
    oppo bdp-105
    rtiA7, front
    csiA4, center
    rtiA1, front presence
    rtiA1, surrounds
    PSW 505, sub
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    Warmer cables....
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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