Legacy Audio Focus Crossover Modification Thread

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Thanks guys! :)

    These are a challenge but it is an easier build than an internal one (as far as the crossover goes) but is more intricate because of the enclosure, etc etc
    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    edited May 2015
    Everyone likes black :) (Have not cleaned the enclosures yet)

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    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386


    Attached is a video of JUST*** the tweeter(s) and midrange circuits playing.

    This is a direct A/B test between modified (no burn in) and stock. I am running the same channel, same unit and controlling the A/B with a remote.

    Please note that the stock crossovers uses their stock wiring and I am using nicer wire to go from the amplifier to the stock unit.

    The modified units is piece-milled together using alligator clips, cheap thin wire and chewing gum in comparison.

    The recording starts off with the modified units playing first

    (Drivers in back go to modified unit/Drivers in front go to stock unit)
    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
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    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    edited May 2015
    This is with the crossovers in place, template fit test

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  • drumminmandrumminman Posts: 3,360
    Trey, that looks stunning. If it sounds as good as it looks your customer will be very pleased.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    That bad boy is huge. Same size as a bookie. Is there a reason Trey it had to be that big or are you adding some goodies to make it so ?
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Thank you guys! :)

    The size of the parts required this size and I actually removed parts that were associated with the trim sections. There are just a lot of parts and the inductors needed space. I measured all of the inductors in their positions to make sure they were not having any interference from other inductors so the spacing is very particular.
    - Not Tom

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    Trey, when the owner has them in place and burned in, I'd be very interested in his thoughts. Hopefully either you or him can post it up here.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,292
    Stunning work. Looks amazing!
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Thank you sir ! :)

    I will definitely post any thoughts the owner providesnnu0s7vh8g5d.jpg
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    - Not Tom

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,133
    Please tell me you're going to use acrylic on the sides to show that work off.
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    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    The owner is doing the side panels, he is weighing a type of acrylic or wood
    - Not Tom

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,133
    I like the idea of transparency and being able to see completely through the unit. Put a little LED in there and it could become a massive conversation piece.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    I agree, that is part of why I mounted the components in the center facing each side versus just bolted to the tabs. I feel this really differentiates the build from other modders and is a great mounting method, very strong and tight.
    - Not Tom

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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 15,133
    Its stupid good Trey. You've done great work for a while, but that is new level right there. This is the first one you've done that has me wowed - no offense to your other builds. ;)
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Thank you very much, I am humbled everyday by some of the things people approach me with and ultimately allow me to design things to my liking (to an extent) and kind of push the envelope of what kind of build can be made
    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    edited May 2015
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    - Not Tom

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  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,544
    edited May 2015
    Trey,

    Remarkable!

    Or, to quote DSkip, "stupid good"!

    You continue to raise the bar from design to design.

    Well done,
    Family Room, PS Audio PW Transport, DirectStream DAC; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 MKII Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux Prisma 750 Amps or CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Thank you Phil :)
    - Not Tom

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    Except some minor finishing touches, one is burning in a little :)hw6r7sftox9h.jpg
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    - Not Tom

    Vr3Mods.com ///// Version3Audio.com

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    edited May 2015
    DSkip wrote: »
    I like the idea of transparency and being able to see completely through the unit. Put a little LED in there and it could become a massive conversation piece.

    Agreed, made that suggestion earlier. Plus it's free advertising for Trey and his work. You look at that puppy illuminated in the dark and people are going to ask questions. You post a pic on forums and people will ask questions.

    Only one thing missing now. Some white Fairy dust from Coconut audio around those wires. lol

    Trey, post up some pics when it's all done and set up with the speaks. Very interested in the final outcome and look....and of course sound.

    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • drumminmandrumminman Posts: 3,360
    Hey Tony, you gettin' inspired to send your Legacy Xovers for a little refresh? I'm guessing that work costs what used car goes for
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,168
    drumminman wrote: »
    Hey Tony, you gettin' inspired to send your Legacy Xovers for a little refresh? I'm guessing that work costs what used car goes for

    Not as of right now, but when the time comes, who knows. I may just hold out for those Aeris to come down in price on the used market.
    HT SYSTEM-2 channel
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Dynaudio Audience 72
    Polk FX500 surrounds
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k Ref 4420 amp

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    The finish line is near! :smile: cd8ba0b44a15c10065fd-24461f391e20b7336331d5789078af53e3d0v8wu8sp.jpg
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    - Not Tom

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  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,544
    Awesome, Trey.

    Absolutely awesome! :)
    Family Room, PS Audio PW Transport, DirectStream DAC; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 MKII Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux Prisma 750 Amps or CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).

    Exercise Room, Wadia 171 iPod Dock, PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC, AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 Preamp, AQ King Cobra RCAs, Perreaux PMF3150 Amp, Dreadnought, Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables, SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers).

    Synology 713+ NAS on Gigabit LAN serving PW MkII DAC & DirectStream DAC.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 22,386
    edited May 2015
    Thank you Phil!! :-D

    Reminder that these are .50 cent tweeters ;-D

    - Not Tom

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    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • TCKTCK Posts: 221
    Mule!
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