Bookshelves - To Polk or not to Polk... and other questions.

MrBuhl
MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
edited March 2015 in Speakers
I have a question for the audio gurus - more specifically for the bookie and HT gurus. Let's just say I was considering moving away from my 2b's and towards a bookshelf in support of my 1c's, which are now my dedicated 2CH rig. Further, let's just say I haven't put myself on temporary equipment moratorium... :smile:

I've been searching the archive threads here for thoughts and likes on different bookshelves, I want to go mid-high used as a target for the value play - let's say staying around $500 used.

I know that it will come down to what sounds best with my system in my room as well - but there may be idiosyncrasies that some of you are experienced with on some of these brands/models that will help as I gently and patiently peruse the usual channels for a screaming deal on one of these.

The room - roughly 13' wide by 12' deep in the listening area (it's actually a bit longer but there is a fairly substantial blockage at the 12' mark that makes it effectively 12ish). For the HT/2CH combo rig I currently have an old HK AVR 20II (used for preamp outs and HT surround channels), inexpensive Yamaha SACD/DVD changer, Yamaha YP-D6 TT with Noosh's Pro-ject phono box when I get it and the Audire Model 1 amp. I do not use a sub down here, and with the 2b's haven't felt the need to.

I've been keeping an eye out for an upgrade to a used Pio Elite receiver - so that's a possibility, and I could substitute in the B&K ST1400II for power if I need to go up a notch from the Audire - in sound or power - so there are some other options here.

So - without further ado - if you've hung in this long - my short list is as follows:

Polk - LSi7 or LSi9
Totem - Rainmaker / Dreamcatcher
KEF - Q300 / Q100
Wharfedale - Diamond 10.1 / 10.2
Von Schweikert - Vr1
NHT - SB3
EPOS - ELS-3

Any particular picadillos I should be aware of with this lineup? Anything glaringly not up to snuff? Primary duty would be home theater, and secondary use would be 2CH digital with #2 turntable.

Thanks for your time and thoughts!


VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

Polk SDA1c modded
Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
SACD Marantz DV8300
Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
Yamaha YP-D6
Soundcraftsmen PCR800
Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
Pho-700 Phono Pre
Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






Comments

  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    If I'm understanding you correctly, you're thinking of replacing the 2B's with a monitor to be used primarily for HT. Since you don't feel the need for a sub with the 2B's why do you want to switch to a monitor, which will require adding a sub?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    F1nut wrote: »
    If I'm understanding you correctly, you're thinking of replacing the 2B's with a monitor to be used primarily for HT. Since you don't feel the need for a sub with the 2B's why do you want to switch to a monitor, which will require adding a sub?

    You are understanding me correctly, yes. I guess I'm wondering if I'm missing something without giving a monitor setup a whirl honestly F1. Maybe I just have the "itis" - but I'm so happy with the upgraded 1c's and current rig there, that suddenly I'm not as happy as I used to be with the 2b's (though to be fair, they have nowhere near the rig supporting them). I wasn't going to sell the 2b's, I'm looking to see what my options are I guess. Does that make any sense?
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    edited March 2015
    If you're going to go to bookies you're going to want to get a sub for HT. I went from RTi7's to LSiM703's and I'm glad I have a sub for HT. Even for music you may want a sub at times.
    Anaheim Hills CA,
    HT 5.1: Anthem MRX 720 / BDP-Denon DBT1713UD / Polkaudio LSiM703 / W4S mAmp's / Polkaudio LSiM706c / Polkaudio LSiM702F/X's / SVS PC12-NSD / Panasonic TC P55VT30

    2 Channel: Rogue RP-5 / WireWorld Electra power cord / Marantz TT-15S1/ Ortofon - Quintet Black MC / Marantz NA8005 DAC / W4S mAmp's / Synology DS 216+ll-4TB / Polkaudio LSiM703
  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    gce wrote: »
    If you're going to go to bookies you're going to want to get a sub for HT. I went from RTi7's to LSiM703's and I'm glad I have a sub for HT. Even for music you may want a sub.

    Thanks, yes, absolutely - wasn't ruling out the sub idea at all - I actually have one to support the family room system (in-wall speaks there - hey, it's the wife's room) so I'm not opposed at all. Was just trying to identify that I don't have one in the HT now because of the 2b's.
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,000
    Keep an eye out for a pair of Revel M22's....used maybe 700 hundred, a tad over your budget but well worth it.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    Awesome - thanks Tony!
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,734
    Personally, I don't think you're missing anything, but hey give a monitor a shot. Hard to go wrong with any on your list as stand alone's. However, timbre matching will be your biggest concern. I can tell you that the NHT's will not be a good match and would be hard to find anyway. As for the others I'm not sure which would work best with the CSi3.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    edited March 2015
    F1nut wrote: »
    Personally, I don't think you're missing anything, but hey give a monitor a shot. Hard to go wrong with any on your list as stand alone's. However, timbre matching will be your biggest concern. I can tell you that the NHT's will not be a good match and would be hard to find anyway. As for the others I'm not sure which would work best with the CSi3.

    Ahhh!! Now THAT is something I was neglecting for sure - because I don't want to go about changing up the RC80i's (ceiling) or CSi3 - thanks for the thought on that!
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    Why not put this money into TL'ing your 2B's?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    D a n g it Nightfall - LMAO - that is EXACTLY the threads I was just looking at - are you psychic!!? :smiley: I forgot that was an option available on the 2b's!
    VA HT HK AVR20II, Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD, Polk Audio RC80i / Polk Audio CSi3, 60" Panasonic Plasma, Nordost / Signal Cable A2 / Wireworld / Pangea / Magic Power
    VA 2 Channel Focal Electra 926 speakers, Pass Labs X150.5 Amp, Eastern Electric MiniMax Preamp (Tutay mods), Eastern Electric Minimax CDP (Scott Nixon mods), Music Hall mmf 5.1 Turntable, Parks Audio Budgie Phono Pre , Audioengine B1 streamer, MIT S3 IC's / MIT Shotgun S3 Speaker Cables / PS Audio power cables
    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • cincycat13
    cincycat13 Posts: 885
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Why not put this money into TL'ing your 2B's?

    With advice like that how am I gonna convince him to bring his 2Bs and $500 to trade for my LSiM 703s? :)

    I do like the pinpoint soundstage of the bookies. Miss the bass of the 2Bs. They are both great...just different. I did not have a room that was suitable for the SDA when I traded mine for some RTA15TLs. I kept a set of SDA 2.3 so I can still get my SDA fix...they just take more room.