Marantz 2330b price question.

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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
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    Mr. Msg,
    I didn't loose any sleep not jumping on that one. I am a newbie to all this but thankfully I did not just fall of the turnip truck although I am "still gripping" the bumper :#

    The whole nostalgia thing is what I'm after and eventually one will come my way. Probably not to stb's $5.00 example but who knows.... B)
  • BDT
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    A wise man once told me that all things being equal:

    A dollar a watt is a fair price.
    The more buttons and knobs, the sh*ttier it will sound.

    BDT
  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
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    I just need to learn to install blue led's and I'd be a happy camper..
  • BDT
    BDT Posts: 212
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    On a Marantz? Changing the lights is easy....they are just fuse lights. I've done mine before....and if I can do it, ANYONE can do it.

    BDT
  • BDT
    BDT Posts: 212
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    xcapri79 wrote: »
    BDT wrote: »
    A wise man once told me that all things being equal:

    A dollar a watt is a fair price.

    BDT
    So that is why they make amps in China! ;)

    Huh?

    I don't follow.....

    BDT

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
    edited March 2015
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    Does that mean a stereo single-ended 2A3 amp should be $7? With tubes?
    Please pick up the next one you find; I'll give you an extra $5 for your trouble.

    ;- )

    On-topic:

    13432334703_8111cb0bcc_b.jpgScan_Pic0048 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

    EDIT: Oh, if you happen to rescue one of those poor old Superscope-era Japanese "Marantz" receivers, there might still be hope for it...courtesy of the late, great vacuum tube hifi hacker, Fred Nachbaur.

    http://www.dogstar.dantimax.dk/tubestuf/gallery3.htm

    Yeah, yeah -- he rescued an hk930... but... you get the picture...

    hk930-3.jpg
    hk930-2.jpg

    ;- )

  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,314
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    Marantz 2230 for $460 and supposedly at least partly re-capped.
    http://charlotte.craigslist.org/ele/4896057189.html
  • mhardy6647
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
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    The nostalgia part of this hobby is very cool. But, if I had to advise a young person on putting something together, I would probably tell them, buy new or buy "recently made" used. Because reliability of the older 70's mid-fi units, which most receivers should be considered, will have issues unless they were gone over very well. Many young people today seem to have shorter attention spans and expect to have little to no maintenance on things. The types of repairs on vintage gear, as mentioned in other posts, are frequently required with purchases made from auction sites and CL. But "buyer beware" right. The older Polk speakers seem to be holding out very well, thanks to rubber surrounds, Polk's on-going product support and this forum. I purchased a new Kenwood KR-9400 receiver in '75 which I still use. It is still looks very good, but it has to have the controls cleaned and tuning calibrated every 5-10 years. I have not had the caps replaced on it either, which is probably overdue, but should I spend for that? "If it ain't broke don't fix it" or "git r done". Maybe I should sell it for more than I paid for it 40 years ago. :)
  • aprazer402
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
    edited March 2015
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    More vintage. NO AFFIL. Pioneer HPM-150 $750.00 Their photos are not actual, they used other's website photos. http://omaha.craigslist.org/ele/4914046575.html
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
    edited March 2015
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    Ever hear the HPM-150s?

    (I'm not a big fan, although in the interest of full & complete disclosure, I do have a pair of HPM-1100s... which aren't, actually, half bad with empathetic amplification)
    10541818085_d115e2e01d_b.jpgHPM1100 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

    The "HPMF super tweeter" was a solution in search of a problem, I'd opine.

  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
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    Never heard the 150's. But I have a pair of HPM-100's, found about a year ago, $20.00 for the pair in VG+ garage sale, hard to pass up. They sound okay. Westmassguy has diagnosed me as a "hoarder", so I was a little reluctant to 'fess up I had more STUFF. Have a good one. :)
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
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    Even I would probably pick up a pair of HPM-100s for 20 smackers.

    The 1100's were freebies; all it cost me was the cost of a pair of the right foam surrounds & the effort of refoaming the woofers. They arent' bad driven by, e.g., a push-pull EL84 amp. They're down in the basement someplace.

  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
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    I got about $600 into this baby and it sounds incredible..

    3c1r6s9dq4nu.jpg
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
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    Very Nice!!! You gotta spend a lot of coin to get that sassy of a look today with new stuff.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,558
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    A piece that's mint and been properly rebuilt is going to be worth a lot more.
    Especially if a known AK member did it. My issue is $20 garage sale stuff
    they sell for $$$$. Kind of like old cars. If you can't work under the hood, keep moving. Paying someone else to do it isn't going to be cheap.
    And note here: you aren't going to be able to really tell you like the
    sound until it's been rebuilt. The au-999 Sansui is going to get a recapp
    soon. Almost everything is on removable circuit boards, so I won't have to kill
    myself to get it done.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
    edited March 2015
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    For fun. I would rate the "looks" (not talking performance) of popular mid-late 70's receivers from top to bottom as: 1. Yamaha (we know which series) 2. Marantz 3. Pioneer 4. Tandberg 5. Luxman 6. Accuphase 7. SAE 8. Mitsubishi 9. Sony 10. McIntosh 11. Sansui 12. Harman Kardon 13. Kyocera 14. Technics 15. NAD 16. Sherwood 17. JVC 18. Kenwood. 19. Onkyo 20. Fisher. Probably missed some good ones.
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,106
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    sucks2beme wrote: »
    A piece that's mint and been properly rebuilt is going to be worth a lot more.
    Especially if a known AK member did it. My issue is $20 garage sale stuff
    they sell for $$$$. Kind of like old cars. If you can't work under the hood, keep moving. Paying someone else to do it isn't going to be cheap.
    And note here: you aren't going to be able to really tell you like the
    sound until it's been rebuilt. The au-999 Sansui is going to get a recapp
    soon. Almost everything is on removable circuit boards, so I won't have to kill
    myself to get it done.

    Exactly right! ^^^^ "Kind of like old cars. If you can't work under the hood"... then be prepared to deal with it. Some bad equipment probably gets passed around and around from one unsuspecting buyer to another. If you can't restore it yourself or if it doesn't add up to have someone do it for you (after you have that worst case restore estimate factored into your initial cost) then you probably should look at alternatives.
  • Nightfall
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    aprazer402 wrote: »
    For fun. I would rate the "looks" (not talking performance) of popular mid-late 70's receivers from top to bottom as: 1. Yamaha (we know which series
    Everyone remembers the CR's but the integrated amps (CA) were equally gorgeous. Classy is how I would describe mine.

    yamahaca10101.jpg

    486107-excellent_yamaha_ca1010_integrated_amplifier_and_ct1010_tuner.jpg
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
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    ... predictably, all I can say is...

    16448889120_6cec4254c6_b.jpgDSC_0242 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

    (and they actually sound pretty good, too)
  • BDT
    BDT Posts: 212
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    ... predictably, all I can say is...

    16448889120_6cec4254c6_b.jpgDSC_0242 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

    (and they actually sound pretty good, too)

    I'm spankin' it like a red a$$ed monkey right now.

    BDT

  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
    edited March 2015
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    Tattoos.

    EDIT: Smartphone? Heck, my phone(s) are even stupider than I am.
    Mrs. H does have a smartphone, though -- mostly, she uses it like a Minox (am I dating myself enough?) to take pictures of obscure and arcane genealogical records in dank basement rooms of off-the-beaten-path New England libraries.

    My attitude towards genealogy -- folks invest all that effort, and sooner or later they're coming up with relatives with names like Zornk, Grog and Oonk -- a la some old Gary Larson The Far Side comics. Oops, dating myself again.

    Oh, sorry -- was that a digression?


  • BDT
    BDT Posts: 212
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    You are a sick, sick man.

    I surrender to you, sir.

    BDT
  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
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    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

    Family Room| Marantz AV7704| Usher Dancer Mini - 2 DMD Mains |Usher Dancer Mini-x DMD's Surrounds | Usher BE-616 DMD Center | SVS Ultra Rear Surrounds | Parasound Halo A21 | Parsound Halo A52+ | MIT Shotgun S3's | Dual SVS SB 4000 Ultras | Oppo UDP 203 | Directv Genie HD DVR | Samsung 75" Q8 QLED | PSAudio Stellar GCD | Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ | Lumin U1 Mini | HP Elite Slice PC | ROON'd for life |

    ManCave: HT:Polk LSiM 706VR3 LSiM 703's LSiM 702's|| Marantz AV7002 AV PrePro Sunfire TGA-7401| Sony PS4 Pro| Sony PS4 Pro|SVS PB13 Ultra| Oppo UDP 203 | Music Hall MMF 5.3se TT w/ Soundsmith Carmen | Samsung 55" SUHD TV | Sony PS4

    Patio | Polk Atrium 8's | Yamaha R-N303BL |

    Office BlueSound Node| KEF LS50 | Peactree Nova 125SE |

    Bedroom | Focal 905's | Chromecast Audio |

    Garage | Polk Monitor 5B's

    Closet Yamaha M80 | 2 Polk MP3K subs| Yaqin MC100B with Shuguang Treasures KT 88's & CV181Z's | Tesla E83CC's | Marantz 2252B | Marantz 2385 |Polk SDA SRS 2.3 | LSiM 705's |
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,077
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    One of the local vacuum tube audio gurus, by and large, has a deeply ingrained dislike for the sound of solid state electronics. New or old, cheap or astronomically priced... with one exception. The unsuffixed Superscope Marantz 2270. That one sounds good, says he... so I tend to believe it is so.