Ortofon Mojo or Ortofon 2M Black Phono Cartridge?
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http://www.needledoctor.com/Ortofon-2M-Black-Phono-Cartridge
Seriously considering a Music Hall mmf 5.1se talked to a salesperson at the Needle Doctor the table comes with the Music Hall Mojo cartridge which is made by Ortofon but thinking about upgrading to the 2m Black. The Mojo sells for $500 the Black goes for $755 normally $800 just wondering if the 2m black would be that much of an improvement over the Mojo. The sales rep told me that the Mojo would be just fine, but some people prefer the sound of the 2m Black. Has anyone heard either of these?
http://www.needledoctor.com/Music-Hall-Mojo-Phono-Cartridge
Seriously considering a Music Hall mmf 5.1se talked to a salesperson at the Needle Doctor the table comes with the Music Hall Mojo cartridge which is made by Ortofon but thinking about upgrading to the 2m Black. The Mojo sells for $500 the Black goes for $755 normally $800 just wondering if the 2m black would be that much of an improvement over the Mojo. The sales rep told me that the Mojo would be just fine, but some people prefer the sound of the 2m Black. Has anyone heard either of these?
http://www.needledoctor.com/Music-Hall-Mojo-Phono-Cartridge
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How much is the upgrade? Just the difference between the price of the MOJO and the black...$255?2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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My understanding is $255 you upgrade in your cart when you checkout and the price difference is subtracted but you don't see that difference until after checkout. I would hate to not get the 2m black but the sales person assured me the Mojo is a fine very detailed cartridge.Home Theater
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Sorry, I can't be a ton of help as I haven't heard either one. I guess it depends on your personality...are you one who will obsess about what might have been? Or would you be happy once you make your decision on the mojo?2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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That's my problem I obsess about everything the what if's get me everytime. If I settle for the Mojo, I won't be buying the 2m separately at that price that's for sure.Home Theater
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That's what I was thinking. This is probably your one shot for a new, high-end cart like that.
And I bet the MOJO is good, but they don't sell that in their regular line do they?
I guess keep looking up reviews.
I will say that when I upgraded my cartridge I was looking in the sub $200 range. I ended up springing for the Grado gold which is $225 or something. I've never had a "what-if" moment, but I know if I would have went with something lower, I would have always wondered what the better cart sounded like.2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A -
They were originally putting a high end goldring Cartridge on this table but changed over to the Mojo on the newer models, I was told the reason was they are favored over the goldring. I guess I could obsesse over it that way. Hey thanks for the input.
I was originally considering Music Halls entry level with a 2M Bronze cartridge which also gets very good reviews so maybe I should be satisfied with the second choice.Home Theater
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Good luck. Nice looking table by the way.2 ChannelTurntable - VPI Classic 2/Ortofon 2M BlueAmplification - Rogue Audio Cronus Magnum II, Parks Audio Budgie PhonoSpeakers - GoldenEar Triton 17.2 Home TheaterDenon AVR-X3300W; Rotel RMB-1066; Klipsch RP-280F's, Klipsch RP-450C, Polk FXi3's, Polk RC60i; Dual SVS PB 2000's; BenQ HT2050; Elite Screens 120"Man CaveTurntable - Pro-Ject 2.9 Wood/Grado GoldAmplification - Dared SL2000a, McCormack DNA 0.5 DeluxeCD: Cambridge AudioSpeakers - Wharfedale Linton 85th Anniversary; LSiM 703; SDA 2A
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just don't get a 2m blue there bad luck your really get me interested in what you do get Steve so keep us posted...TT junkies want to know.2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
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Sojust don't get a 2m blue there bad luck your really get me interested in what you do get Steve so keep us posted...TT junkies want to know.
So I hear, what the heck replace the blue stylus with a Bronze stylus bet it fits that red cartridge.
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I may wait until the red seems to need a replacement and do that or maybe a major TT upgrade with a MC cartridge....got over 2k coming back but not in a hurry anymore LOL... probably just put it into savings for now...
I know myself I love looking at new TT, but I'm happy with my TT sound...
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I can see why they would change from Goldring to the Mojo. I had a goldring 1042 and I prefered the Denon DL160 over it... and at the time the denon new was 1/2 the price of the Goldring.
I have not heard the Mojo but, it looks like it gets good reviews.
I ran across this and it looks like they a great match. http://www.ultrahighendreview.com/music-hall-mmf-5-1se-turntable-and-mojo-cartridge/
I have heard a few ortofon carts but, not the black. Again though, it also gets good reviews. Sometimes though a cart. will sound great on one table and not another. Trying to find the synergy thing again LOL.Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's. -
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