Another Non-Common Ground Amp Question.

Kind of a two part question. I have an Adcom 5503, it's has not been connected in over two years. I probably should have it checked out first. Question one is strapping the two negative speaker connection posts on the amp with a 10 or 12 gauge quality cable all that is required? Second part would using a AI-1 (I have two AI-1's) and ALSO strapping the negatives be unnecessary? I have a pin/blade cable. Is there any way to test an original Polk AI-1 to confirm if it is working properly (voltmeter maybe) Also years ago there was post by Raife (Darque Knight) reviewing a Polk AI-1and he found that wrapping it in several layers of aluminum foil had a positive effect on the SQ. I think he said the optimum layer of foil was between 6-7 but less than ten? Is this old science by now? I've heard of the Dreadnaught. Thanks.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
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    The dreadnaught is the way to go these days. I would not strap negatives on the amp, and as far as your AI-1 goes... not much to go wrong there, so you should be alright. Check the center pin for continuity, and you should be good.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
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    Regardless if the Adcom is common ground or not use the AI-1 as it will improve the sound quality. Strapping is a poor choice and there's no reason to do so since you have the AI-1. Use 10 layers of aluminum foil, no less and no more.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I have a Adcom 5503 and it is a common ground amp i swear. i tested it with my voltage meter and will do again if you like. If you have a multimeter it is easy to check.

    I have some CRS+ speakers and I will hook it up Tomorrow and check it to be sure it is safe for you to use :) and I am going to have Dave (wessmassguy) build me a Dreadnaught as it will improve the sound even if your using a common ground amplifier.
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,147
    I was always told the Adcom 5503 is a "Non-Common Ground" amplifier that requires strapping the negs. or using an AI-1 or a Dreadnaught with any Pin/Blade SDA's. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,648
    The GFA-5503 is most assuredly *not* common ground.

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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    holy smoke I made a horrible mistake on the Adcom 5503...just check it and it is not common ground, I swore when I check them all for my CRS's I check it too along with my other 3 amps, I could not have metered it and just thought I did...
    I Apologize for telling you wrong :(
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  • aprazer402
    aprazer402 Posts: 3,147
    Glad we saved your CRS's from any damage, it was a "common" error.
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2015
    aprazer402 wrote: »
    I have an Adcom 5503...
    ...is strapping the two negative speaker connection posts on the amp with a 10 or 12 gauge quality cable all that is required?
    Yes. It's not the ONLY way, though, IF (big IF) you have SDA speakers that can accept the transformer-coupled SDA interconnect. These are usually (not always) speakers with the pin/blade interconnect cable sockets.
    aprazer402 wrote: »
    would using a AI-1 (I have two AI-1's) and ALSO strapping the negatives be unnecessary?
    Yes, it would be unnecessary to strap the negatives when using an AI-1. Given a choice between strapping the negative posts vs. using an original Polk AI-1, I'd test both ways...and likely prefer strapping the negatives especially as the volume went up. The tiny transformer in the original AI-1 won't handle the SDA signal at higher volume. It's just too amperage-limited. By comparison, the 12-gauge wire used to strap the negatives has no such amperage limitation; at least not in terms of audio amplifiers and the SDA signal.

    To my knowledge, everyone who has claimed that the transformer-coupled interconnect "sounds better" than the strapped negative posts, has used a HUGE transformer (Dreadnought) rather than the itty-bitty AI-1. (Of course, the transformer-coupled interconnect is NOT AN OPTION for those of us with older SDAs. Only the two newest generations can accept the transformer in the interconnect.)
    aprazer402 wrote: »
    Is there any way to test an original Polk AI-1 to confirm if it is working properly (voltmeter maybe)
    Ohmmeter. I'm unsure what you could expect for resistance readings; perhaps someone else knows and could post the specs. Wild Guess: If you have continuity through each transformer winding, you're fine. The big Dreadnoughts would measure under one ohm. The little transformer in the original AI-1 would probably have more resistance due to finer wire in the transformer windings.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    To my knowledge, everyone who has claimed that the transformer-coupled interconnect "sounds better" than the strapped negative posts, has used a HUGE transformer (Dreadnought) rather than the itty-bitty AI-1.

    This was originally discovered using the AI-1.
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