Adcom GFA 555 II With Niles HPS-4 Speaker Selector for Protection

pongshi
pongshi Posts: 376
edited January 2015 in Electronics
I have an Adcom 555 II amp on the way as a replacment/backup for my current Hafler DH-500 which is being used to drive my Polk SDA SRS speakers. I currently have my Hafler routed through my Niles HPS-4 speaker selector. The Niles HPS-4 has built in speaker protection and can handle up to 250 watts per channel. I basically just use the switch to switch between my Polks and the other set of speakers, and I never run them both at the same time.

I have heard a few of the horror stories of the Adcom GFA 555 and 555 II frying speakers due to the lack of speaker protection, but it seems like a great amp for its price. Would the HPS-4 serve as a viable speaker protector from this issue? I sincerely hope I didn't make a mistake since I have already ordered the amp.
Thanks
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,640
    I had the GFA555 hooked to my SDA2b's & it was a perfect match. Never used other speakers while hooked to it-or used a Niles. Although ive read others have used them. Maybe they will chime in. Enjoy your new amp
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  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    Glad you like your GFA 555. I almost bought one instead of the 555 II. It seems there are a lot of folks who have run GFA 555 and 555 II that have had zero issues and like this amp (like yourself). I hope for the same. Though I realize it is a rare occurrence, I am just wondering if my speaker selector provides any protection against the DC surge that I have heard sometimes kills speakers with this unit. It is not real clear to me if the niles would protect my speakers against this type of failure with the GFA 555 or 555 II. Thanks
    Living Room
    Parasound Model 2250v2 amplifier
    Parasound P5 preamp
    Turntable 1 - Technics SL-1210Mk2 turntable with Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Turntable 2 - Dual 1229 turntable, Dual AS-12 45 RPM stacker, Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Schiit Mani Phono Preamp for Turntable 2
    Oppo UDP-205 CD/SACD USB and FLAC duties
    Technics RS-1500US reel to reel
    Polk SDA SRS (2nd Gen) fully modded
  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    I do not have the Adcom, but I do run the Niles in my garage setup with a H/K receiver so I can switch between deck and garage speaks. I believe the Niles is a complete pass-through unit, and would provide little to no protection.
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    Hmm... a quick look at the Googles, and it appears there is a protection circuit designed to keep your amp from overloading, I can't say if it also protects your speakers in some way. See attached snip from the owners manual: m959yqd23za5.jpg
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    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    The best protection in my book is control of that pesky volume knob.
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  • xjghost
    xjghost Posts: 1,103
    tonyb wrote: »
    The best protection in my book is control of that pesky volume knob.

    Yea tell me about it.......
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  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    I am listening to my new arrival... The Adcom GFA 555 II simply walks all over my Hafler DH-500. Though my Hafler is a good amp, it just does not have the clarity of the Adcom. The Adcom is in the livingroom. The Hafler is now in the bedroom. Yes, I am running it hooked up to Niles HPS-4 speaker selector switch.
    Living Room
    Parasound Model 2250v2 amplifier
    Parasound P5 preamp
    Turntable 1 - Technics SL-1210Mk2 turntable with Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Turntable 2 - Dual 1229 turntable, Dual AS-12 45 RPM stacker, Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Schiit Mani Phono Preamp for Turntable 2
    Oppo UDP-205 CD/SACD USB and FLAC duties
    Technics RS-1500US reel to reel
    Polk SDA SRS (2nd Gen) fully modded
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,124
    Glad your liking it, got a 555 II myself pushing a pair of 2B's, I have 3 Adcoms, happy with all of them.
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  • xjghost
    xjghost Posts: 1,103
    pongshi wrote: »
    I am listening to my new arrival... The Adcom GFA 555 II simply walks all over my Hafler DH-500. Though my Hafler is a good amp, it just does not have the clarity of the Adcom. The Adcom is in the livingroom. The Hafler is now in the bedroom. Yes, I am running it hooked up to Niles HPS-4 speaker selector switch.

    I got one from a pawn shop for $100 but it sounded distorted. I have it in the shop now having them check it out. I am running my 3.1's with a hafler 500 right now and I really like it. Cannot wait to get it back.
    HT/2Channel: Emotiva MMC-1, Adcom GFA-555II, Polk SDA 3.1's, Teac TN-300 TT, Polk Center and Sub.

    Bedroom system: Carver CT-24, Parasound HCA-800II, Monitor 10's

    Additional projects: RTA 12c's
  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    If your Adcom sounds distorted and your Hafler doesn't, there must be an issue with the Adcom. I find my Adcom has much more clarity in the mid and high ranges than my hafler. I can't really tell which amp has the advantage in the low frequencies yet. They seem to be pretty close there. Both my Hafler and the Adcom are stock. I am sure either one could be exceptional with modifications.
    Living Room
    Parasound Model 2250v2 amplifier
    Parasound P5 preamp
    Turntable 1 - Technics SL-1210Mk2 turntable with Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Turntable 2 - Dual 1229 turntable, Dual AS-12 45 RPM stacker, Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Schiit Mani Phono Preamp for Turntable 2
    Oppo UDP-205 CD/SACD USB and FLAC duties
    Technics RS-1500US reel to reel
    Polk SDA SRS (2nd Gen) fully modded
  • I also run a series 1 GFA 555 and it is also hooked up w/ a Niles SP-6 speaker selector that also has protection switch. I only once ran all my sets at the same time and nothing happened not a thermal L.E.D light came on or any distortion w/ any of my speakers. Of course I do not do that as a practice and as some here have said adding a selector only introduces noise downstream. Well nuts to that, there is not one bit of difference when I ran my sets seprately or through the selector. Clear out those golden ears of yours.... ( not to anyone specific)
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  • pongshi
    pongshi Posts: 376
    Leftwinger57,
    I don't run both sets of speakers at the same time though I have tried it for a couple of minutes and everything seemed to be okay. The image gets a bit lost running all 4 speakers at the same time and 2 channel turns into surround sound. I do not notice the sound degraded at all with just one set of speakers running. I am not sure about the sound being degraded with multiple sets because it is hard to listen critcally with all 4 going and I don't want to tax my equipment.
    Living Room
    Parasound Model 2250v2 amplifier
    Parasound P5 preamp
    Turntable 1 - Technics SL-1210Mk2 turntable with Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Turntable 2 - Dual 1229 turntable, Dual AS-12 45 RPM stacker, Shure V-15 Type III cartridge
    Schiit Mani Phono Preamp for Turntable 2
    Oppo UDP-205 CD/SACD USB and FLAC duties
    Technics RS-1500US reel to reel
    Polk SDA SRS (2nd Gen) fully modded
  • Ponghi, getting back better later than not at all. I have to agree w/ the term clarity when talking about Adcom series 1 555. Some say it's bright I haven't heard that many other ss amps to say it's bright or neutral but what I can say that it comes no where near it's 200 wpc potential which is what I always wanted, An amp that has enough power to push any speaker set I could afford and not clip or over heat or go into some protection mode if it has one. Since no gain controls all work is done through the NAD 1020a pre which is uber sensitive, opens up the SDAs sound stage and if it's bright that can be adjusted through the pre. I do not have to do much except be very careful w/ the volume control, a tad to much over 9:00 pos the walls or what's on them do start to shake a bit. Again I never run multiple sets at the same time but do change off for variety depending on the mood, source or just haven't heard that set in a while. Doing all 4/5 sets in one 18'x 15' living room is nutty.
    2chl- Adcom GFA- 555-Onkyo P-3150v pre/amp- JVC-QL-A200 tt- Denon 1940 ci cdp- Adcom GFS-6 -Modded '87 SDA 2Bs - Dynamat Ext.- BH-5- X-Overs VR-3, RDO-194 tweeters, Larry's Rings, Speakon/Neutrik I/C- Cherry stain tops Advent Maestros,Ohm model E

    H/T- Toshiba au40" flat- Yamaha RX- V665 avr- YSD-11 Dock- I-Pod- Klipsch #400HD Speaker set-

    Bdrm- Nikko 6065 receiver- JBL -G-200s--Pioneer 305 headphones--Sony CE375-5 disc
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    Nothing in the Niles switcher will protect your speakers when DC is present. When people talk about the rare instance and amp "takes out a speaker" there is DC present. Unless of course you are worried about overdriving the amp, causing it to distort and then clip the signal frying the voice coil................still the Niles won't help with that either.

    Get rid of it if you can, it's just something else adding noise in the signal chain.

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