Ortofon 2m cartridges question

voltz
voltz Posts: 5,384
From what I have read from Music Direct and some other web site, I hear that if you have a Ortonfon 2m cartridge you can change the 2M Red to a 2M Blue just by changing the stylus to a 2m blue stylus. And that any 2M stylus will work with any 2m cartridge.

Just curious if anyone has tried this and if this was true!
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  • Now I'm curious too!
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    Yes the Red and Blue are interchangeable and the Bronze and Black as well..
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  • sgtmick63
    sgtmick63 Posts: 166
    I have the 2M black on my modified Rega P3/24 and I love it. I think it's the best buy out there now.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    So the main difference is the stylus, and the red & blue are 5.5mV and the black & bronze are 5mV.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    Sorry I should have clarified better, the Red and Blue are interchangeable with eachother only..
    The Bronze and Black are also interchangeable with eachother but not with the Red or Blue.
    I own the Red and a Blue also tried out a Black liked it a lot the upgrade bug bit and Sold it to further my audio journey..
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I thought that was what you meant, and that is how I took it. not to mix the red & Blue with the Bronze & Black. as I notice the spec's had enough difference to not mix & match the 2 set's.
    Thanks for all the help I may someday pick up a blue stylus for my red. seen a blue stylus for $204
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    How many hours are on your Red?
    I found it needed about 40+ to take away the harshness that was there, the Blue just open up the top end a little more, more airy.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    the red has probably 200-300 hours maybe B)
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited January 2015
    IMO the blue is a nice upgrade over the red. More bass, less noise and no inner grove distortion. The red was nice but the blue out performed it in every way. I upgraded to the blue after about a month using the red.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I think its time for a blue Stylus! thanks
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    If you can swing the $$ go for the Bronze it's much better overall than the Red or Blue.
    ATC SCM40's,VTL TL 2.5 Preamp,PSB Stratus Goldi's,McCormack DNA 500,McCormack MAP-1 Preamp,Pro-Ject Xtension 10 TT,Ortofon Cadenza Red/Nordost RedDawn LS Speaker cables, Bryston BDP-2, Bryston BDA-2,PS Audio AC-3 power cables
  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    What turntable is the cart going on?
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    I have a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon -with Acrylic platter upgrade -Speed box S and Graham Slee phono amp.
    I thinking of the blue because then I just get the Stylus...if I go with the Bronze then I think I have to get the Cartridge and go thru remounting one. and do I want to add a $420 Cartridge to my TT compared to a $200 upgrade for the Blue.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD
  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited January 2015
    That is what I was going to add. Just switch the stylus and bam, your done! Goodluck
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited February 2015
    I seen a few Pro-Ject TT with a Ortofon Silver Cartridge on them, it is basically a 2M red cartridge with special silver wiring, I was wondering what stylus it used so I sent email to Ortofon.

    I got a reply back right away, they did say the silver cartridge is made specially for Pro-ject only... and you would replace the stylus with either a 2M Red or Blue stylus but they suggested that the Blue was a better option :) but I don't think he told me what was already on it.
    2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge

    HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD