Kimber speaker cables
footwedge
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Looking at buying used kimber cables. I see there's a newer cable red and clear and the blue and black older version. Currently using belden 5000ue 12 awg.
1. Is the newer version that much better?
2. Is the 8tc worth twice the cost of the 4tc sonically?
1. Is the newer version that much better?
2. Is the 8tc worth twice the cost of the 4tc sonically?
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The 8 tc is more so for bigger speakers with bigger woofers. If your using smallish speakers like bookies or small floorstanders, the 4tc should work fine for you.HT SYSTEM-
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The 8 tc is more so for bigger speakers with bigger woofers. If your using smallish speakers like bookies or small floorstanders, the 4tc should work fine for you.
Thanks. Learning something is always a good thing.
Any sonic difference, iyo, between the versions?
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Yeah, some....but you won't realize it much with smaller speakers. You need bigger speaks to take more advantage of what the 8TC has to offer. Then there's the 12 tc. lol
Seriously, the 8 has pretty much the same sound signature as the 4tc, just more of it. The newer versions of both have a slightly more detailed sound to them. I would hunt up the newer versions if possible.
BTW...how long of cables do you need ? Here's a deal on 5 footers...8tc for 120 bucks
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ele/4820690263.htmlHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Thanks. I need 8 footers. Think I will buy bulk 4tc and terminate myself. This way I can take care of the center also. Hard to find a set of 3.
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I have owned both 4TC and currently have 8TC. The difference is extremely subtle. I have consistently recommended a 4TC/PBJ speaker/IC combo thru the years; as a budget cable setup that you may not ever find a need to upgrade.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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I have owned both 4TC and currently have 8TC. The difference is extremely subtle. I have consistently recommended a 4TC/PBJ speaker/IC combo thru the years; as a budget cable setup that you may not ever find a need to upgrade.
Thanks. Would the 4tc be a good match for the Lsim 703?
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Absolutely.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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I'm thinking of using 1 foot lengths of Kimber Kable 4tc for making jumpers. Is that too long?Paradigm 11seMkIII mains, w/ Zu Audio jumpers
Paradigm CC 450 center, w/ Zu Audio jumpers
Polk Audio RTi6 surrounds
Paradigm SE sub
Sony BDP S5100 blu-ray player
Panasonic 50" plasma
Yamaha RX A1000 receiver
Parasound HCA 1205A amp
Audioquest Evergreen IC's -
Sci-fi Polk Guy wrote: »I'm thinking of using 1 foot lengths of Kimber Kable 4tc for making jumpers. Is that too long?
Depends...what connectors are you going to use or are you using bare wire ends ? If bare wire, they can be a lot shorter.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I have some Nakamichi banana connectors that I could use. But, I am not opposed to using Kimber spades and bananas.Paradigm 11seMkIII mains, w/ Zu Audio jumpers
Paradigm CC 450 center, w/ Zu Audio jumpers
Polk Audio RTi6 surrounds
Paradigm SE sub
Sony BDP S5100 blu-ray player
Panasonic 50" plasma
Yamaha RX A1000 receiver
Parasound HCA 1205A amp
Audioquest Evergreen IC's -
1ft seems kind of long for jumpers.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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Sci-fi Polk Guy wrote: »I have some Nakamichi banana connectors that I could use. But, I am not opposed to using Kimber spades and bananas.
What connectors are you using for the speaker cables ? Lets say your using banana's on the speaker cables, then you don't want to use banana's for the jumpers, see what I'm sayin' ?
I would think 6-8 inches is plenty long no matter what connectors you use, but bare wire can be as little as the distance between posts.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's