Audiogon seller backed out after taking my money

Well today I put an offer in for a nice tube pre. The seller responds later and said there is one offer ahead of mine. Straight away I though what the heck so I used the buy it now and just paid straight away. Well he calls me up and then starts babbling on about he sold it and some one just came to his house and bought it (in the space of less than 5 minutes? ) and he does not have it. I know its BS and cant prove anything but its just sad.

Now I am just not happy and a little depressed by the whole ordeal and the seller still has my $3550 that he said he will just refund tomorrow. Crap day and frustrated just like back in the days when daddy always promised to buy me a pony but never did.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    And here we go....
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    Panamax 5400-EX
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    Did you type this up on the toilet during the late evening dumpage?
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    gudnoyez wrote: »
    Did you type this up on the toilet during the late evening dumpage?
    No but you could say I am down in the dumps over it.

  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    Well all jokes aside is there anyway you guys recommend handling this? Should I contact audiogon and report him or leave bad feedback.
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    Definitely, take it up with Audiogon.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    What would they do? I have accepted that I wont receive my item.
  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited November 2014
    Good to see some things haven't changed here in the new forum. PFB is still full of it...
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited November 2014
    He has already told you what will happen......just wait until he refunds, then spend the money someplace else. Without emails, you really only have the Buy It Now transaction contract and your receipt of payment to stand on. I would contact Audiogon to get them to flag the transaction as a potential infraction of the sellers agreement to proceed with the sale. The contract is binding as soon as you paid and he is in default until he delivers or refunds. If he receives directions from Audiogon, he will act on the refund process faster to protect his ability to sell with them. He will claim that he sold the item locally and simply didn't have time to take down the listing, which is actually true even though you think differently. You really aren't opening a case against it yet, just letting them in on the phone call's content. Stay cool and let Audiogon know that you acted in good faith, but wanted them to know just in case this got out of hand.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    The pre was listed cheap so I know he is a liar and went highest offer. You make alot of sense Dennis, I just gotta accept that I got tossed aside for some one offering more money
  • I doubt that he sold higher, I bet he sold local/under the table to avoid fees.......
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    Well just got the refund so thats all good but no cary spl05. Gona be kicking mself for ages about not getting my ears on itto pair with the Cary 200.2 ampi have.
  • Saul Good......glad it worked out, at least you can sleep tonight.
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    He did tell you one seller was ahead of you, just not that
    the guy was coming over. You're just going to have to be patient now.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,859
    Nothing to see here...move along.

    Happens all the time with Audiogon, and even with Ebay. You got your money back quickly, that's all that matters.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,008
    He's just cryin' and stompin' his feet he didn't get an SLP 05 for dirt cheap. You got your money back PFB, so there is no issue.
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  • PFB, perhaps it was a good thing that the sale fell through. The PFB Sales Experience hasn't always been rewarding.

    Sal Palooza
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    Well he changed his story today and said he had to drive to the sale but on the phone a guy just showed up on his door. I agree with everyone that its one of these things that happens and I got my money back so I am not out nothing.

    He did offer me dibs on these products and promise to give me a low price

    Audio Valve Eklipse preamp.
    Ayre KX-R "Twenty" preamp.
    Unison research Simply Italy integrated amp.
    Sophia Electric 91-05 integrated amp.
    Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista integrated amp

  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,606
    Perhaps you should stand pat for a little while?
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,008
    How much for the tri-vista ?
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    Sony 4k BRP
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    Polk Sig. 20's
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    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    He wants $2700 shipped but thats not a deal if you ask me.
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    Tony gimi a price to hit em with that is rock bottom
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    Ayre KX-R "Twenty" preamp is supposed to be an amazing preamp but I didnt think it was tube if you looking to do down that route.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    he wants 15k for the twenty
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    I think they were 27k new. I am not positive though.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,224
    billbillw wrote: »
    Nothing to see here...move along.

    Happens all the time with Pfb, and even with Ebay. He got his money back quickly, that's unusual..

    Couple of edits.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,121
    PFB, have heard the SLP-98 ? Pair that with your 200.2 AND GIVE IT TIME TO SETTLE IN
    Thank me later . . .

    Sorry the 05 didn't work out, that was a dirt dirt cheap $$

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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    Any chance you can find some great tube preamps for sale from some of our trusted fellow CP members here? Sorry to hear of all the trouble you had on this one at Audiogon PFB.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    PFB, perhaps it was a good thing that the sale fell through. The PFB Sales Experience hasn't always been rewarding.


    wow do you think that little girl freaked out over that one?

    talking about the video he posted,
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