Santana's 1st lp

voltz

I am looking to get Santana - Santana on vinyl and there are 2 versions out there = Mofi & Sundazed. The Sundazed seem to have better reviews but its not 180 gram vinyl. The mofi is 180 gram but has some bad reviews, so I'm not sure which to get.
- Anyway heard these and do you have any opinions on them?

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can't say exactly as I got mine from the dollar vinyl section.
My Sundazed LP experiences haven't been that good.

voltz

some of my new Sundazed have some noise in them, especially the color vinyl that I avoid all colored vinyl now. maybe it had nothing to do with that, but they all are just good and not the best.

gce

I have the Mofi copy and love it but I don't have the Sundazed to compare.

voltz

thanks gce!

I had a feeling you might have one or the other, your avatar pic tell me you just might be a Santana fan I think the bad reviews felt that mofi had toned it down on the newer pressings, think I'm going with the Mofi copy.

gce

I also have Abraxas on MFSL and to me it sounds better but I still have no complaints on the first one. Let me know what you think when you give it a listen.

pumpkinman

I can't compare the two either but I have the first three on MOFI and I love them. Have many LP's on colored vinyl and I'm not a fan. Try to stay away from it.
If you'd like regular copies of the first 3 albums send me a PM.

gce

pumpkinman, I see that III is on the Silver Label. How does it compare to the other 2 on Gain 2?

pumpkinman

gce wrote: »

pumpkinman, I see that III is on the Silver Label. How does it compare to the other 2 on Gain 2?

Yes III was released only recently on the MOFI label. I personally can't tell any diff.
but at my age my hearing is suspect. Looks like I may have been mistaken on Abraxas as I haven't located it yet. I have sooooo many LP's it is hard to keep track and I don't always return an albu to proper slot when I'm finished.

gce

pumpkinman wrote: »

I have sooooo many LP's it is hard to keep track and I don't always return an albu to proper slot when I'm finished.

I'm starting to have the same problem. I've started to pull the one next to the one I'm playing out a little so I know where to put it back.

Thanks for the info on the Silver Label, I think I'll be getting that one next.

voltz

I look at record cleaning as Therapeutic, but I wonder if P-man see's it as a nightmare? Do you always clean before you put it away so its already done?

gce

I clean mine (even new) with "Spin-Clean". I don't have one of those expensive vacuum cleaning machines yet. After cleaning with Spin-Clean I use a Carbon Fiber Brush before putting them back in the sleeve, works great!

pumpkinman

voltz wrote: »

I look at record cleaning as Therapeutic, but I wonder if P-man see's it as a nightmare? Do you always clean before you put it away so its already done?

Therapeutic it is. I love the whole process. If I've never cleaned the LP it's done before I play it. When I'm done listening to it it is placed in a new MOFI inner sleeve before being put away. Then I use a carbon fiber brush before each play from then on. I picked up a almost new VPI 16.5 RCM about 6 years ago. Before that I used a DIY unit I made. Which was just a good as the VPI but not nearly as convenient.
Here's is the RCM I made for Deepak a forum member here at Polk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pvF4aBLAn2Q

gce

Yeah, I want something like that some day...very cool P-man!

voltz

very cool P-man, nice work.
I use a VPI 16.5 also and I also clean everything I just bought wither new or used. New I used a 2 step process, but older ones get a 3 step with the 1st step in enzyme cleaner. I then put it into a mofi inner sleeve also and toss out the one it had unless it has lyrics or such then I save those but store them in another box. then I always use a anit-static brush on them before I play then and I use a stylus cleaner solution by "LAST" and this Onzow Zerodust stlus cleaner!