Nice looking pair of 1.2 F/S in Bakersfield. Do they look like tl's to you?

http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/ele/4646879997.html

Might be worth a drive over the big hills if they are the newer tl speakers.
Can you tell from the picks? Look at his collection of SDS-SRS speakers. Think he is a member here?
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  • stogie
    stogie Posts: 230
    The bolt pattern on the crossover plate would indicate they are not TL's.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,240
    They are the original SDA SRS's

    They are NOT 1.2's and NOT 1.2tl's

    They are still BADASS speakers and worth the asking price..
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    BKphoto Posts: 409
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  • stogie wrote: »
    The bolt pattern on the crossover plate would indicate they are not TL's.

    Bolt pattern is not a reliable indicator as Polk is known to use old stock on newer versions of the SDA SRS (1.2 and 1.2 TL).

    If the interconnect socket is blade/blade they are the original SDA SRS (Polk never made an original SRS with a pin/blade).

    If it's pin/blade and they have SL2000 tweeters, they are SDA SRS 1.2's. If the tweeters are SL3000's, they are 1.2 TL's.
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  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,068
    I think it's interesting that he is keeping the 2.3TL's over these. Says a lot....
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited September 2014
    I want that setup...including the girl. :wink:

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    You can keep Mariah Carrey. I feel bad for those speakers having to be subjected to playing her voice.
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  • oldrocker
    oldrocker Posts: 2,590
    You can keep Mariah Carrey. I feel bad for those speakers having to be subjected to playing her voice.

    Too funny :D
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    dpowell wrote: »
    I think it's interesting that he is keeping the 2.3TL's over these. Says a lot....

    Indeed :)
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  • Believe they are original SRSs. Bolt pattern and the binding posts reversed.
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  • Believe they are original SRSs. Bolt pattern and the binding posts reversed.
    Home Theater/2 Channel:
    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
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  • michaeljhsda2
    michaeljhsda2 Posts: 2,184
    edited September 2014
    @‌westmassguy

    Bolt pattern and binding post reversal is not a reliable indicator as Polk is known to use old stock on newer versions of the SDA SRS (1.2 and 1.2 TL). The only way to distinguish them is by the interconnect socket. If they are blade/blade they must be original SRS's because Polk never made an original SRS with a pin/blade socket.

    My friend's 1.2's had an original SRS sticker on the back and an SRS crossover plate, yet the were actually 1.2's. The previous owner followed the illustration on the back of the speaker and unwittingly wired them out of phase.
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  • LeftCoast
    LeftCoast Posts: 406
    edited September 2014
    I spoke to the owner of these speakers. They were made in 1989. Were the original SDA SRS speakers still being made in that year or was Polk only making the 1.2 or 1.2tl by then?
  • I am the owner of the subject 1.2's, SRS's, & 2.3 TL's. The gentleman that is picking up the 1.2's tonight told me that someone posted my CL ad on the forum; I thought it would be fun to chime in. I'm keeping the 2.3 TL's because this combo looks better than two pairs of SRS's side by side. I prefer the sound of the 1.2's over the 2.3 TL's; however it's rare that I play all 4 at once. Since both offer distinct sound, I can choose between the two when listening to different music genres.
  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    lesquivias wrote: »
    I am the owner of the subject 1.2's, SRS's, & 2.3 TL's. The gentleman that is picking up the 1.2's tonight told me that someone posted my CL ad on the forum; I thought it would be fun to chime in. I'm keeping the 2.3 TL's because this combo looks better than two pairs of SRS's side by side. I prefer the sound of the 1.2's over the 2.3 TL's; however it's rare that I play all 4 at once. Since both offer distinct sound, I can choose between the two when listening to different music genres.

    Nice!
    What amps are the silver ones there?

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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    Nice!

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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited September 2014
    lesquivias,

    Welcome to the Forum!

    With such a rich collection of Polk vintage speakers, I'm suprised you have not joined before.

    You must be warned: If you do much reading on the Forum, you may be tempted to take a leap down the rabbit hole!

    Again, welcome.
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  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    lesquivias wrote: »
    I am the owner of the subject 1.2's, SRS's, & 2.3 TL's. The gentleman that is picking up the 1.2's tonight told me that someone posted my CL ad on the forum; I thought it would be fun to chime in. I'm keeping the 2.3 TL's because this combo looks better than two pairs of SRS's side by side. I prefer the sound of the 1.2's over the 2.3 TL's; however it's rare that I play all 4 at once. Since both offer distinct sound, I can choose between the two when listening to different music genres.

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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    lesquivias wrote: »
    Carver Silver Seven 4.0t. 375 WRMS/channel @ 8 ohms & 500 WRMS @ 4 ohms.
    I know of the Carver Silver 7T,
    http://www.carversound.com/carver-amplifiers/silver-seven-t/
    at 575 watts 8-ohm and 900 watts at 4-ohm.

    and the Carver TFM 4.0t.
    http://www.carversound.com/carver-amplifiers/tfm-4-0/
    at 375 watts 8-ohm and 500 watts 4-ohm.

    Far as I know, there's no "Silver Seven 4.0T".
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    Far as I know, there's no "Silver Seven 4.0T".

    There isn't and the 2.3TL's are 6 ohm nominal.

    The power rating of those Carver amps is deceptive, they aren't anywhere near that powerful when push comes to shove. More voltage than current.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited September 2014
    There is indeed a carver M4.0T with a silver seven vacuum tube transfer function. I own one as well. Will try to find a picture. It is nothing like the original silver sevens by any means but simply is designed to have that type of sound. Same as Carver did with other amplifier "voicing".xlgfkmbxt9el.jpg
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    There is indeed a carver M4.0T with a silver seven vacuum tube transfer function.

    Yes, but referring to it as the Carver Silver Seven 4.0t is incorrect and misleading.
    It is nothing like the original silver sevens by any means but simply is designed to have that type of sound.

    Having heard the original Silver Seven tube amps I can assure you the T function SS amps don't even come close.
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  • Mr. Bubbles
    Mr. Bubbles Posts: 736
    edited September 2014
    F1nut wrote: »
    There is indeed a carver M4.0T with a silver seven vacuum tube transfer function.

    Yes, but referring to it as the Carver Silver Seven 4.0t is incorrect and misleading.

    Not really. Though not technically correct in the name some people use for the amplifier, To a carver fan or anyone of moderate intelligence who decides to research it a little the 4.0T comes up with the silver seven transfer function associtaed with it most all of the time. Easy enough to figure out why most people describe it as such. There is also the Silver Seven T amp. Made to look like the Silver Seven but being a SS amp.
    It is nothing like the original silver sevens by any means but simply is designed to have that type of sound.

    Having heard the original Silver Seven tube amps I can assure you the T function SS amps don't even come close.

    Agreed completely! I am not a big fan of any of the carver T amps don't think any of them sound like real tube amps. Just sloppy versions of the SS amps. They sound better than a lot of gear but not nearly as good as a lot of others.

    Sorry, I have not gotten good with multi-quoteing yet.

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  • F1 I like your shirt. Here's mine for the day...3tpz420s1xl7.jpg
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • Got to get another post in to get one more in my post count.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • ok. one more...
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • OK that's better.
    If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of Progress?!


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,552
    We'll agree to disagree about the name.

    Love the shirt!!!
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