The Passion

PhantomOG · February 2004

sounds like a pretty dumb church to me

is the phrase "The Jews Killed Jesus" actually anti-semitic in itself?

i don't know for sure that it is.

PolkThug · February 2004

Nice disclaimer on the word "Jew".

I heard a Jew man once speak out about how he hated the term "Jewish". There is no "Christianish".

Also, good point Phantom. It's not anti-semitic in itself, but, unfortunately there are some dumbasses that use this event as a reason to hate.

Sorry, just bantering...

Frank Z · February 2004

I think that it is very anti-sematic if you look at the fact the sign was put up to coincide with the opening of the movie. Spineless hate mongering in the name of religon, any religon, is pathetic.

PolkWannabie · February 2004

More so in the last couple or three millennia of life on the planet than in the last couple of decades of movies in theaters, people have been killed in the name of some spiritual deity ...

As in ... My gawd's better than your gawd, my gawd's better than yours, my gawds better 'cause he eats Kenilration, my gawd's better than yours ...

Oh ... that's dog ... never mind ... where's my industrial flame suit ...

audiobliss · February 2004

I think that it is very anti-sematic if you look at the fact the sign was put up to coincide with the opening of the movie.

I must disagree. Why not put up a sign addressing this subject now? What better time to talk about it than when there is so much controversy about it? If you read the Bible account, it says that the Jews DID kill Jesus; it is a fact. They were afraid of their positions being taken away, so they wanted Him killed.

More than that, though, we all killed Jesus. He came to die for our sins so that we may be able to escape death and share eternal life with Him. He died for everyone of us; every time we commit a sin, we're nailing Him to the cross and crucifying Him anew. That's the important point: that He was willing to die for us that we would be washed clean of our sins and receive through grace what we never could otherwise have acheived.

I don't mean to offend anyone here, and I admitt that the church COULD be posting that sign with bad motives, but I would doubt it, myself. Also, there is nothing inherently wrong with statement, for it is true; it could, however,be used with bad intentions and would thus be wrong.

I'm off my horse now.

Dr. Spec · February 2004

I won't see this movie in the theater or at home - ever. I'm too horrified by it.

Movies are an escape for me.

I know what happened to Jesus - the bible and numerous church plays told me all I need to know. I don't need to see it with today's ultra realistic and gruesome special effects. It would be an extremely unpleasant experience I'm certain.

Doc

dorokusai · February 2004

Whose this Jesus guy? I thought this was the new Lethal Weapon movie....screw this, if Danny Glover ain't in it, I'm not watching it.

PolkThug · February 2004

Originally posted by dorokusai
Whose this Jesus guy? I thought this was the new Lethal Weapon movie....screw this, if Danny Glover ain't in it, I'm not watching it.

Danny Glover IS in it. He is the 13th apostle, Rufus.

Originally posted by audiobliss
More than that, though, we all killed Jesus.

I did not kill Jesus.

Regards,
PolkThug

Strong Bad · February 2004

More than that, though, we all killed Jesus.

Yeah homeboy, don't be pointing that finger my way. My **** wasn't anywhere near there.

In other news, I smell the "Passion of the Hall of Shame" creeping up on this one.

dorokusai · February 2004

I wish I could kill alot of people, but Jesus didn't make the cut.

PolkWannabie · February 2004

Originally posted by audiobliss
I must disagree. Why not put up a sign addressing this subject now? What better time to talk about it than when there is so much controversy about it? If you read the Bible account, it says that the Jews DID kill Jesus; it is a fact. They were afraid of their positions being taken away, so they wanted Him killed.

A fact ? What lead you to the conclusion that the Bible was a factual text ? How many centuries after the supposed FACT was it written ? You mean a belief, don't you ?

dorokusai · February 2004

It's just a book, IMO....I hav'nt decided where I stand. Actions speak louder than words, and I think I am doing well in real life....but in my fantasy life, I am crazy, crude and Bill O'Reilly.

ohskigod · February 2004

i saw the movie, just my 2 cents

i'm not the most religious man on the planet, but the movie did stir some emotion, as any good piece of art worth its salt should.

i saw it for the face value, a movie about how Christ died. it was depicted in a very brutal and graphic fassion, but since crucifications were known to be brutal, it was easy to see why the graphic nature of the movie existed.

anti semitic? sweet jesus, give me a break (no pun intended)
someone made the comparison to a movie about the holocaust being anti german, and that seems about right.

Millions of people are Christians, and i personally think that the people who decry this movie as if it should have never been made would invoke much more anger than the movie itself ever could.

ohskigod · February 2004

P.P.S.

great soundtrack, and RuSsMan, as far as the subtitles i would usually agree with you. I hate subtitles and normally could never watch a movie with them, but in this case it worked. After a while, you almost forgot you were reading subtitles. I just have to assume the latin added to the whole ambience of the movie, perhaps giving it more umph

I'll definitly be buying the DVD for the collection.

Spoonman · February 2004

Love it or hate it. This thing is on a roll!

'Passion' Plays On: $64.6M in Three Days
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/articles/news/?id=040227potc.htm

They are predicting $110 million by Sunday. I'm hearing some rumors of certain theaters preselling tickets to the point of no open shows for 1-2 weeks. Anyone else hearing that?

Ron-P · March 2004

I plan to see this Saturday. The only movie I will most likely venture out to an actual theater this year to see.

Peace Out~:D

jd45177 · March 2004

Originally posted by PolkWannabie
A fact ? What lead you to the conclusion that the Bible was a factual text ? How many centuries after the supposed FACT was it written ? You mean a belief, don't you ?

I think quite a bit of the New Testament was written between 50 and 90 AD, not too long after the fact.

PolkWannabie · March 2004

Nothing I've ever seen suggests that the majority of the New Testament was written much before the 4th century AD.

Do you have a reference or links ?

But regardless of when it was written, it's a matter of belief and acceptance, not fact.

shack · March 2004

Originally posted by PolkWannabie
Nothing I've ever seen suggests that the majority of the New Testament was written much before the 4th century AD.

Do you have a reference or links ?

But regardless of when it was written, it's a matter of belief and acceptance, not fact.

http://www.yahweh.org/publications/articles/dates/dates_for_the_nt.pdf

It can be considered as much fact as any other "historcal" writing. We consider documents from ancient Greece, Rome Egypt, etc...to be "factual" and use them as our basis of historical information in our text books (I guess that this can be a matter of belief and acceptance also). As far as the Bible is concerned...belief and acceptance (faith) comes into play if you believe that the Bible was inspired by God.

And, IF you believe the Bible, the issue of who killed Jesus is answered very simply...God killed Jesus...he placed Jesus on Earth to ultimately be killed so he could arise from the dead. The people responsible were irrelevant other than to fulfill the prophecies. Again...this only applies IF you believe the Bible.

PolkThug · March 2004

Rank the beatings.

A.)Fight Club: Blond-haired guy getting beat up.
B.)Reservoir Dogs: Cop gets beat up, ear cut off..
C.)The Passion: Jesus beating.

My fiance saw The Passion and she said the beat down wasn't as gory as most people said it was, so I'm just trying to get a point of reference. (not to mention, to derail the place this thread is heading)

Regards,
PolkThug

PolkWannabie · March 2004

No prob ... it was already way off track ... but I don't have an opinion as I haven't seen it ...

I'm sure the producers of the movie are very thankful of the media propelled controversy such as it is. That's worth a lot more than any advertising campaign and a whole lot cheaper.

Ron-P · March 2004

Looks like FOX picked up the DVD / Home Video rights which means it should get excellent treatment. Hopefully a 2-disk SE loaded with extras.

Peace Out~:D

RuSsMaN · March 2004

Originally posted by Ron-P
Hopefully a 2-disk SE loaded with extras.

Cool, if 2 hrs of watching Jesus getting his **** kicked isn't enough, you can catch the behind the scenes extras of his ****-whipping. Gotta be a neat directors commentary 'Here we see Jesus getting beat down'.....'and in this scene, you see the Jews open a Family-Sized can of whoop-****'.

Cheers,
Russ

kberg · March 2004

Originally posted by shack

And, IF you believe the Bible, the issue of who killed Jesus is answered very simply...God killed Jesus...he placed Jesus on Earth to ultimately be killed so he could arise from the dead. The people responsible were irrelevant other than to fulfill the prophecies. Again...this only applies IF you believe the Bible.

This is my take as well. IMO, if you're a believer, Jesus knew what was going to happen to him and others before they actually did. I mean, doesn't the "before the **** crows, you will deny me three times" passage give us a clue?

shepx2 · March 2004

I'll see it when it gets to DVD.

And for those of you who think this movie is the cause of any anti-semitism, here ya go:

PhantomOG · March 2004

funny comic.

i can't stand to listen to people who think its the government's job to "protect" them from every little thing that *they* might find offensive.

if you don't like the movie, don't see it. easy as that.

Frank Z · March 2004

Originally posted by PhantomOG

i can't stand to listen to people who think its the government's job to "protect" them from every little thing that *they* might find offensive.

Who said anything about the government? Maybe I missed it.

PhantomOG · March 2004

Originally posted by Frank Z
Who said anything about the government? Maybe I missed it.

no one in this thread. just ranting more about all press coverage and supposed controversy this movie is causing. always seeing this on the news irks me, but i guess i should just take my own advice and not watch it

TheMaster · March 2004

As in ... My gawd's better than your gawd, my gawd's better than yours, my gawds better 'cause he eats Kenilration, my gawd's better than yours ...

Can I get an Amen to that....

"I don't have a problem if you belong to a any religion, furthermoe; I respect your religion because it is where you found him and accepted him in your life."

...qouted from a good friend of mine.

Glenn

PolkWannabie · March 2004

no one in this thread. just ranting more about all press coverage and supposed controversy this movie is causing. always seeing this on the news irks me, but i guess i should just take my own advice and not watch it

For this we blame the government ? as opposed to the "we REPORT the news, we don't MAKE the news" press ?

The Passion

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