rti8 with sub or rti10 without sub

asadlarik3

Rti8 has 2 drivers. Rti10 has 1 mid driver and 2 woofers, so both seem a compromise. Rti12 has best of drivers and woofers.

So given my budget i am thinking about rti8 with dayton sub 1200.
Or rti10 without sub.

Also i am not sure about how one less mid driver will effect the sound on rti10.

movies/music(rock,electrronic,pop) 50/50
Help will be appreciated.

Hermitism

asadlarik3 wrote: »

So given my budget i am thinking about rti8 with dayton sub 1200.
Or rti10 without sub.

I'm willing to bet either of those two choices are going to make you wish you had better bass. To really get the lows out of the RTi10's you are going to want a good quality amp. I own the RTi8's and am using it with a PSW125 sub and I am about to look for a better sub. nbrowser will probably see this and chime in, he has the RTiA7's (newer version of RTi10) with a Parasound amp and he will tell you how much difference that amp made in the lower end of those speakers. If money is an issue, I'd go with the 8's and wait and save for a better sub to go with it. My sub is the only purchase I regret in my system.

The guy I bought my AVR from had the RTi10's and I liked them very much. He was powering it with my AVR only. They sounded good, but they won't compare to a high quality sub. FYI, high quality subs aren't cheap, that's why I wish I would have applied the money I spent on my PSW125 and used it towards a sub that is higher up on the chain. Now be aware that some people think the RTi line is a bit bright for music and is better suited for HT. I don't have a lot of experience with different speakers, but the 8's have the best mids of anything I've heard so far, which is what I think makes them nice for music. I'm one of the people that found them a tad bright. If you end up being on that side, there are a some things you can do to warm them up.

edit: what AVR or amp will you be using?

Zeros

I agree the other guys and also recommend going with the RTi8's and a sub, but I may be a bit biased as that's the setup I run.

mr2686

RTI8 and a sub. The 8's have great mids and can run well off of an AVR.

MADGSF

I agree with everything said, get the RTi8 and a good sub. With the amp I have driving my RTi10s you get a lot of good bass out of them but if you want to use it for movies you will want a sub any way.

Erik Tracy

RTi8s...


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asadlarik3

wow too many rti8 fans. what about mid performance on rti10 better or lower than rti8?

well if going for rti10 sub can be put off to later upgrade, but yes i know they will require external amp, i think both will require external amp as recommended amplifiers are 250watt for rti8 and 300watts for rti10, that power will be expensive to get, so i would like to know whether these amplifiers will perform nicely and safely:

1. Behringer NU1000 Ultra-Lightweight High-Density 1000-Watt Power Amplifier $150
2. GTD Audio 2 Channel 6500 Watts 1U Stereo Professional Power Amplifier AMP $170
3. Gemini XGA-5000 Professional Power Ampflier (5000W) $200
4. American Audio ELX4000 $250
5. Behringer EUROPOWER EP2000 Professional 2,000-Watt $250
6. American Audio Vlp600 Amplifier $270
7. Crown XLS1000 Power Amplifier $293
8. QSC GX3 Power Amplifier $300


I am more inclined towards 2 and 4, need atleast 200rms @8ohm. receiver will be of bottom line with preouts, may be pioneer 1123 or refurbished yamaha aventage.

Waiting for your Opinions.

ken brydson

asadlarik3 wrote: »

wow too many rti8 fans. what about mid performance on rti10 better or lower than rti8?

well if going for rti10 sub can be put off to later upgrade, but yes i know they will require external amp, i think both will require external amp as recommended amplifiers are 250watt for rti8 and 300watts for rti10, that power will be expensive to get, so i would like to know whether these amplifiers will perform nicely and safely:

1. Behringer NU1000 Ultra-Lightweight High-Density 1000-Watt Power Amplifier $150
2. GTD Audio 2 Channel 6500 Watts 1U Stereo Professional Power Amplifier AMP $170
3. Gemini XGA-5000 Professional Power Ampflier (5000W) $200
4. American Audio ELX4000 $250
5. Behringer EUROPOWER EP2000 Professional 2,000-Watt $250
6. American Audio Vlp600 Amplifier $270
7. Crown XLS1000 Power Amplifier $293
8. QSC GX3 Power Amplifier $300


I am more inclined towards 2 and 4, need atleast 200rms @8ohm. receiver will be of bottom line with preouts, may be pioneer 1123 or refurbished yamaha aventage.

Waiting for your Opinions.

Not a big amp guy but those all appear to be pro amps, not really known for sound quality. If you're OK with used, I think most would agree that a nice Parasound, Adcom, B&K, etc would be a much better choice on a budget. Just my .02...

Hermitism

The RTi8's can be powered with just a good AVR. I've had my RTi8's hooked up to two AVR's. The first was an entry level Denon (1613, I think). I actually liked it's sound with music at lower levels, but as I raised the volume it didn't take long for it's internal amp to strain. I can't remember where the calibration software set my speaker levels, but 50% volume level wasn't getting it done, and when I turned the volume up to 5.5 it immediately started to sound bad, which meant the amp was starting to strain. You always want clean sound/power going to your speakers or you can damage them. So if you have to raise the volume past 50%, you are underpowered. Straining the amp can send a clipping signal to your speakers which can fry your tweeters. I like to listen to music at a comfortable relaxing level, but when I watch movies, I like to have a theater experience and that receiver didn't cut it. It would have been fine for someone in an apartment or someone that watches movies and listens to music at a low to moderate level.

The receiver I have now has more power than I need and I don't use an external amp. It had a pricey MSRP, but I bought it used, for the same price as a new entry level receiver would have cost. You can save tons of money on the used market or buying refurbs. You'll always benefit from having a good quality external amp, but if you went with the 8's and got a powerful AVR, you'd be just fine.

FYI, I've heard a few people mention that Yamaha AVR's have a bright sound. I don't know if they were referring to a specific model or all models, but I wouldn't go with any AVR or amp that has a brighter sound and pair it with RTi speakers. I've never heard a yammy, but I'm sure someone reading this will comment if it would sound good with the speakers you are interested in. Where are you going to be buying your speakers from? I may have already mentioned this in another thread, but Polk has an eBay store that sells new discontinued and refurb speakers at discounted prices and they have the discontinued RTi8/10's in stock. Good deals!