Polk Audio SDA SRS 1.2TL

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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    As an aside here I'm curious about something ...

    Polk lists the replacement tweeters for these in their Service and Parts section and I'm sure they'd be more expensive there than elsewhere even with the discount.

    But the question is, does Polk really stock this type of thing for older speakers like the 1.2's or SRT's etc. or does one have to go hunt up used ones elsewhere ?
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited February 2004
    you have ta hunt em!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    Sid,

    Having heard the 1.2's now and the SRT's at Polk, how would you compare them ?

    I've heard the SRS line before in my youth but not the SRT's
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2004
    Polkwannabie - We could all write that response.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • PolkWannabie
    PolkWannabie Posts: 2,763
    edited February 2004
    So please do so ...

    I've never heard the SRT's
    Rick
    HT+ Sunfire TG IV, Dual CG Sig II's, CinePro 1K2, Oppo 981, Audio Technica PL120, Polk SRT's & F/X1000's, Samsung 71" DLP
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    First off, if the damage was done by Sid and Dad, don't y'all think it was more likely done by the Yammie?
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    They are 2 tweets, same speaker, lower two.
    This bothers me a bit. The bottom one is the opposite channel's SDA tweet. The one above it should be the third in the batting order for that channel. Strikes me as an odd combination to blow in a single listening.

    If an SDA tweet blows, doesn't it seem more likely that a tweet in the other speaker would blow? Clipping in one channel would take out opposites.

    And if you are going to blow a tweeter in a given channel, I'd think the top one, which sees continuous duty, would be more likely to blow.
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    The bottom one is the opposite channel's SDA tweet.

    Who told you that?

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    Polk? Wanna say it was in the manual. but may have been in the Stereo Review article of the SDA SRS...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited February 2004
    When we ran this LOUD test, it was on the *SOUNDCRAFTSMAN* the yamaha is only pushing the inwalls and garage speakers now.........

    The SRT holds nothing to the 1.2 - but I only heard the SRT on a 200 watt amp......

    But yes, the bottum two, on the right speaker blew......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited February 2004
    the way I was told, was the early SDA's you know the ones that had tweeters on the right and left at the top of the speaker, did use the tweeters for SDA, but then Polk realized the SDA effect was only or for the most part only through the mid range, so they dropped the second tweeter (like on CRS+) so I would think the tweeter(s) on the later model SDA do not have SDA information.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited February 2004
    Not exactly right.......

    If you plug one speaker up, attach the SDA cable. You will receive signal out the other speaker and the one plugged up. FWIW
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited February 2004
    Correctamundo there Russ.

    AND with the vertical tweeter arrays, half are bandpassed, and half play out to there full response bandwidth.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,722
    edited February 2004
    The third tweet from the top is the main tweet in the 1.2(TL) and would most likely be the one to fry first.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,722
    edited February 2004
    That's right Sid, but it's only the mids that play, no tweeters.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    Interesting... As directional as the higher frequencies are, I would have thought there was a good deal of SDA impact to be realized there.

    F1,
    What's the rest of the batting order for the 1.2tl's tweets?
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Not exactly right.......

    If you plug one speaker up, attach the SDA cable. You will receive signal out the other speaker and the one plugged up. FWIW

    what is this SDA cable you speak of? never heard of it ;)
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,413
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    Interesting... As directional as the higher frequencies are, I would have thought there was a good deal of SDA impact to be realized there.

    F1,
    What's the rest of the batting order for the 1.2tl's tweets?

    Of all the questions I thought to ask Stu AFTER the Polk gathering at Russ's house, the evolution of the SDA speaker line was one I really wish we would have talked about, and the deleting of tweeter(s) is something I wanted to know about, as well as other things. Missed op. for sure.
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

    "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us have...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,722
    edited February 2004
    If I understand this right it is,

    TI - 2nd
    T2 - 3rd
    T3 - 1st
    T4 - 4th
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2004
    Reminds me of trying to remembering firing order :D
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited February 2004
    My Dad's Comments on the 1.2TL.......

    "This speaker has the best soundstage I have ever heard from a speaker."

    "The only difference from it and the Wilson Audio X-1 is it's clearness. The X-1 is slightly clearer."

    There ya go :D
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2004
    Was that before or after you blew up the tweeters? :D
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited February 2004
    Blah blah blah

    At 110+db who gives a ****.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited February 2004
    "There was a piano at the doorway. The guitar came from the backyard. The singer was right there in the center. The drums were behind him. The seperation was unbelieveable! The difference between them and the X-1, is not worth the money. The soundstage is simply amazing."

    - Dad ^^^^

    Quoted FROM my Dad

    Troy,
    Your brain power amuses me. Your observation skills even amuse me more.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,083
    edited February 2004
    again, all those observations in less than a couple hours at 110+db with blown tweeters?

    You oughta go write for Stereophile.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • VE6OHV
    VE6OHV Posts: 119
    edited February 2004
    I just have to say that this is turning into a bigger pissing match than the "liv4fam" threads of days gone by.

    Funny too - it all starts to sound the same after a while.

    Can't we all just play in the sadbox peacefully?

    Not that this isn't entertaining!

    BTW: I am one of those guys trying to sell a left nut for some SDA's....... Know anyone buying testicles?
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,776
    edited February 2004
    Originally posted by VE6OHV

    BTW: I am one of those guys trying to sell a left nut for some SDA's....... Know anyone buying testicles? [/B]

    I might be interested. My wife took mine :D
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited February 2004
    Sid,

    I hear you on the tweeter dude.
    I blew up two of mine (a long, long, long time ago) and learned my lesson about running 3.1TL's of a 80wpc yamaha amp.

    The tweeters sounded fabulous right up to the time that smoke was curling from them and an awful burning plastic smell came from under the grill cloth.

    Here is the thing.... the Yamaha will clip sending full DC current to the SL3000 tweeters without ANY indication whatsoever. Fortunately for me, Polk was kind enough to replace both tweeters under factory 5-yr warranty no questions asked. Since that time, I have been VERY CAREFUL not to overdrive them with an undersized amp (or, any amp for that matter).

    Your yamaha simply wasn't designed to power 24 active drivers. That is probably why the tweeters went.

    Live and learn. Wish you could have learned from my mistake.

    Take Care.

    Ron
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2004
    I seriously doubt Sid will try to power 1.2TL's with the yammie amp again in the future!
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • cds
    cds Posts: 28
    edited February 2004
    Over the holidays 4 of the SL3000’s on my 2.3’s died doing nothing more than enjoying concert level SDA sound. Not having any luck locating replacements, I decided to investigate what happened to them.

    I believe my findings, failure theories, and the repairs would be interesting to the group. Since it may be a rather long post, what would be the best forum to post it in? Here or in “Troubleshooting”.

    Another thought would be to add a text file attachment to keep the posting small. Any thoughts?
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited February 2004
    Troubleshooting works as does posting the whole thing...

    Welcome to the Club and go for it...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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