Drum Battle: Buddy Rich vs Animal

strider
strider Posts: 2,568
edited July 2014 in The Clubhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJh9W3Gcpmo
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,990
    edited July 2014
    Cool enuff!

    but...

    shoulda been a three-way with Moon... just sayin'...
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,121
    edited July 2014
    Animal's a sore looser! Nice solo Bud . . .
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,328
    edited July 2014
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    shoulda been a three-way with Moon... just sayin'...

    Hell also, throw in John Bonham, Bill Ward, Ginger Baker, and Neil Peart, and have and all out Bang-a-thon
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited July 2014
    Buddy brings his A game on this one:

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/BZ5B7yqDYbA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Things really get heated at about the 2:10 mark.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2014
    How about this one! Phenominal!

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,328
    edited July 2014
    I have always been impressed by great drummers that can make music banging around. Drums in music is like flying a helicopter, all four plus the brain
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited July 2014
    Nice! That's a bit closer of a battle then Buddy and Krupa on the Sammie Davis show.

    I'm going to be Ed Shaughnessy for Halloween this year.
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  • boston1450
    boston1450 Posts: 7,673
    edited July 2014
    WoW that guy is good. Great Utube vid
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2014
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Cool enuff!

    but...

    shoulda been a three-way with Moon... just sayin'...

    Moon and Bonham would probably be drunk enough to get up there with Buddy and make fools of themselves. The other rock stars mentioned would more than likely run the other way. Smart. Shaughnessy is happening.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited July 2014
    To me Krupa "swung" better, not as flashy but more "danceable". Rich has the reputation of being a martinet to work for and often a verbal abuser. There's an infamous audio tape of him browbeating his band after a gig on the band buss for no apparent reason. Only Charlie Mingus would have been a worse boss to work for, he once hit a trombone player in the mouth after a missed cue.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited July 2014
    I always got a kick out of Ginger Baker, poor guy drove himself crazy trying to play as loud as Jack Bruce's amp's LOL.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,990
    edited July 2014
    Buddy Rich was a phenomenal drummer; yes, crazy and borderline out of control like so many drummers (Jim Gordon, of course, being an extreme case) -- it's just that I always got more of a Keith Moon-style zany insanity (how's that for an imperfect rhyme?) vibe from Animal than a Buddy Rick vibe, George. I wasn't equating them in terms of ability to hit the skins per se. Just thought I'd clarify that.

    ... and I have no comment on John Bonham... never thought him worthy of comment (but what do I know?).
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited July 2014
    There's a documentary on Ginger Baker available from Netflix to show you his personality, warts and all. Another master swing era drummer is Baltimore raised Chick Webb who was handicapped. The famous 1938 battle of the swing bands between the Savoy Ballroom's Chick Webb band and the Count Basie band with Gene Krupa is still being debated between jazz historians. If I had a time machine and a tape recorder!
    The swing bands created the modern era drummers, placing them high up on the bandstand, shining spotlights on them and giving them plenty of space to solo.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited July 2014
    thanks Ken

    Found one called "Beware of Mr. Baker" I have to watch it today!
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  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 317
    edited July 2014
    I remember seeing Buddy Rich on the Carson show many times as a kid.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2014
    I like Keith Moon. I like when he plays the drums. I like a lot of drummers and love to hear them play the drums. None of them can play the drums like Buddy Rich. He was the man.

    Ella Fitzgerald got started with Chick Webb's band, or was the featured vocalist when she was very young. He was a tiny hunchback.

    Ginger Baker seemed to sit idle after Cream, or at least didn't do anything worth mentioning until the "Ginger Baker Trio" thing with Bill Frisell. Those lp's are pretty good.

    I have a copy of that incident where Buddy berates the band on the tour bus during the intermission. Sounds like an old portable cassette copy, maybe a tiny machine that was in somebody's pocket. He is as nasty as a human could be. The things he says and threatens are evil. To me, what is hilarious, is the mad stampede to get off the bus when he's finished with them and tells them to get back inside and play like professionals, or he would leave them there. The tape recorder is still running and it's a free-for-all getting off cause nobody wants to be the last one on the bus with him alone. I asked him for one of his sticks once and I thought he was going to punch me. Still the best.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited July 2014
    If you'll remember Johnny would always introduce Rich as "Mr. Warmth", kind of an insider's joke I suspect.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2014
    strider wrote: »
    Nice! That's a bit closer of a battle then Buddy and Krupa on the Sammie Davis show.

    I'm going to be Ed Shaughnessy for Halloween this year.

    LOL! You gotta post a picture! :lol:
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited July 2014
    There's a story that Baltimore guitarist Carl Filipiak (his wife works at Polk) tells about Ginger. Carl was providing guitar support for a drum seminar that featured Baker. Carl is pretty excited, a chance to hang out with someone who's played with Clapton, one of Carl's heros. After a while, Ginger asks if he could have a cup of hot tea.
    Carl scrounges around, finds a styrofoam cup, a Lipton tea bag and a source of hot water. Presto, hot tea! He gives this to Baker who throws it down and huffs, "That's not a proper cup of tea!".
    By the way, Henson modeled the "Animal" character on Baker, wild hair and all.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,328
    edited July 2014
    Kenneth Swauger wrote: »
    . By the way, Henson modeled the "Animal" character on Baker, wild hair and all.

    Interesting piece of trivia...makes since
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