Flim and the BB'S

soundfreak1
soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
edited July 2014 in Music & Movies
Anyone out there fimilier with this jazz group? Unusual jazz and fantastic mastering on cd. Can be found on pandora if you want to give them a listen. Just discovered them but they have been around a very long time.great reference cd for evaluating speakers. Give them a listen and let me know what you think.am really enjoying the Tricycle cd.
Main Rig:
Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
MIT exp 1 ic's
Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
AQ kingcobra ic's
OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited June 2014
    Ohhhh yes! "This Is A Recording" and "Tricycle" are both excellent!
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2014
    Im going to hit my local music store and stock up on them. Great music, and as said, the recording quality is surpriseingly good and dynamic.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited June 2014
    halo71 wrote: »
    Ohhhh yes! "This Is A Recording" and "Tricycle" are both excellent!

    I have both of these and enjoy them. Can you recommend other recordings by them?

    Agree, the engineering and mastering is quite good.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited June 2014
    "Big Notes" is a must have as well. As with all F&BB's discs they are recorded very very well, but this disc seems to be a step above the others I have. Very dynamic recording.

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    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited June 2014
    You can catch those guys as individual studio "house" musicians on the World Pacific Jazz or Pacific Jazz label recordings from the mid 60's to early 70's. Stuff like The George Duke recordings from back then (pre-Zappa).

    The first Flim/BB's release was widely hailed as the recording of the century or the year, I don't remember that well. I know it was a little too perfect and predictable for me, with no spontaneity. Almost like a bridge between jazz and that smooth jazz crap. I tired of it pretty quickly, but they are excellent digital recordings.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2014
    Just picked up" tricycle" and the first cut is deff not predicable (LOL) when the drums kick in at the lower level passages made me jump several times! But they have a very diff sound and arrangments. Great deffinition in the instraments and fantastic drum passages. A verry nice. Change from the normal jazz offerings out there. I find them ratheer esoteric in a way they do the arrangments.not at all boring.some of the best " refferance material" ive heard in a while.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • ROHfan
    ROHfan Posts: 1,014
    edited June 2014
    Been a fan for years and have almost all their material.
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    Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
    Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2014
    Just recieved ( fleebay) BIG NOTES, FURTHER ADVENTURES, and TUNNEL. Great riffs, punchey base its all very good!. Love discovering new (old) music especially this well mastered.great reference material.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited June 2014
    Some of the earliest reference CDs

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited June 2014
    Haven't heard of them before. I will have to give them a listen. Thanks for the suggestion.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited June 2014
    Headrot if you want you can find them on pandora so you can give them a listen first. And danny I found the early 80's vintage cd's as well. All DMP labels.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • SDA SRS 1.2
    SDA SRS 1.2 Posts: 255
    edited July 2014
    I think TriCycle is listed in my 1.2's owner's manual as a recommended recording to "show off" the SDA's.
    Main System: Polk SDA SRS 1.2 Speakers, Sunfire Signature 600~two Amp, Carver C-16 Preamp, Carver TX-11b Tuner, Marantz 6350Q TT, Philips CDR-775 Recorder, Teac V-707RX Cassette Deck, Signal Cable Double Run Speaker Cable

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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited July 2014
    SDA SRS 1.2 wrote: »
    I think TriCycle is listed in my 1.2's owner's manual as a recommended recording to "show off" the SDA's.

    That wouldn't surprise me at all, thats a great recording!
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,604
    edited July 2014
    SDA SRS 1.2 wrote: »
    I think TriCycle is listed in my 1.2's owner's manual as a recommended recording to "show off" the SDA's.

    really? WoW!
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited July 2014
    I used "Tricycle" to help tune car audio systems that I installed for myself and others. Great test for dynamics and midbass to upper subbass integration and tightness. This cut will bring a weak system to its knees....the speakers will break up and the midbass will sound boomy.
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited July 2014
    WLDock wrote: »
    I used "Tricycle" to help tune car audio systems that I installed for myself and others. Great test for dynamics and midbass to upper subbass integration and tightness. This cut will bring a weak system to its knees....the speakers will break up and the midbass will sound boomy.

    But on a good system.... your speakers will get up and dance. In fact its not kust flim but the DMP lable is all recorded like that. Pick up any Dmp lable music you can find, they will blow your mind.
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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