I'm now a believer in cables...And I'm offering a Karma
ROHfan
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dFigured I would post this here as the 2 channel group seems to have an open mind about cabling.
So a few years ago I was in the "cables don't matter" camp but I do not belong to that camp any more. I adapted and evolved right along with my gear.
Here is the upgraded cabling installed in my rig tonight:
Pangea AC-9 for my Emo XPA-3
Pangea AC-9 for my Oppo
Pangea AC-14 for my Mapletree tube preamp
Kimber Cable "Tonics" for ICs
Audioquest "Type 2" speaker cables
Bear in mind that I was previously using cheap crap from Home Depot and Rat Shack.
I turned on the tube amp and let it warm up for about a half hour, then it was on to listening.
Let me get to the point...my jaw is still on the ground. It's making me drool on the keyboard as I type
My speakers never sounded this sweet.
I started with my usual Flim and the BB's which I use to evaluate speakers. Then it was on to Paul Simon, right into Diana Krall, some selections from "Vocal Jazz, Hear and Now," Rush's "Permanent wave" and ended up with Supertramp's "Breakfast in America."
I don't know what part of the chain of cables caused the difference (surely the tube preamp made the most noticeable impact) but the whole sound now is fuller, bass is better and tighter, and I now want to listen to my entire CD collection again. It's exciting. It's a little bright but that's something that tube rolling might take care of.
So, to all you naysayers about cabling, keep spouting off. I've heard the difference. And for someone who tests copper and certifies fiber optics in the field I figured I'd be the LAST person to defend premium cables. So there you have it.
If I've gotten into any heated debates with any members here in the past about cabling and making a jackass of myself I now apologize to you. I have a LOT to learn. In fact, to make things right, I'm offering, as a Karma, 2 Aura Pro Bass Shakers with a 2ch 15 watt Pyle amp that drives them more than enough. Yours free for the taking because with the PSA XS15 I no longer need them. They are in great shape but one shaker is missing the spring that keeps the lug on when wires are not attached but it is not an issue if you leave a cable in the plug. Local to Long Island can pick up, all others will pay for shipping which will not be crazy. In fact I can probably ship them through my job for nothing.
So PM me a number between 1-25 and the first correct guess wins. I posted the winning number on a Facebook page (not mine) so you'll know nothing's fishy. I will then sen you the facebook page.
So a few years ago I was in the "cables don't matter" camp but I do not belong to that camp any more. I adapted and evolved right along with my gear.
Here is the upgraded cabling installed in my rig tonight:
Pangea AC-9 for my Emo XPA-3
Pangea AC-9 for my Oppo
Pangea AC-14 for my Mapletree tube preamp
Kimber Cable "Tonics" for ICs
Audioquest "Type 2" speaker cables
Bear in mind that I was previously using cheap crap from Home Depot and Rat Shack.
I turned on the tube amp and let it warm up for about a half hour, then it was on to listening.
Let me get to the point...my jaw is still on the ground. It's making me drool on the keyboard as I type
My speakers never sounded this sweet.I started with my usual Flim and the BB's which I use to evaluate speakers. Then it was on to Paul Simon, right into Diana Krall, some selections from "Vocal Jazz, Hear and Now," Rush's "Permanent wave" and ended up with Supertramp's "Breakfast in America."
I don't know what part of the chain of cables caused the difference (surely the tube preamp made the most noticeable impact) but the whole sound now is fuller, bass is better and tighter, and I now want to listen to my entire CD collection again. It's exciting. It's a little bright but that's something that tube rolling might take care of.
So, to all you naysayers about cabling, keep spouting off. I've heard the difference. And for someone who tests copper and certifies fiber optics in the field I figured I'd be the LAST person to defend premium cables. So there you have it.
If I've gotten into any heated debates with any members here in the past about cabling and making a jackass of myself I now apologize to you. I have a LOT to learn. In fact, to make things right, I'm offering, as a Karma, 2 Aura Pro Bass Shakers with a 2ch 15 watt Pyle amp that drives them more than enough. Yours free for the taking because with the PSA XS15 I no longer need them. They are in great shape but one shaker is missing the spring that keeps the lug on when wires are not attached but it is not an issue if you leave a cable in the plug. Local to Long Island can pick up, all others will pay for shipping which will not be crazy. In fact I can probably ship them through my job for nothing.
So PM me a number between 1-25 and the first correct guess wins. I posted the winning number on a Facebook page (not mine) so you'll know nothing's fishy. I will then sen you the facebook page.
TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier
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Welcome to the dark side. Your journey has just begun :^ )2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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We have a winner! It's ZLTFUL .
Here's the website with the #19 in a post to prove there's no funny business. https://www.facebook.com/lifastpitch.fever.TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
Holy crap man. Thanks!"Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."
"Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip -
Here is the upgraded cabling installed in my rig tonight:
Pangea AC-9 for my Emo XPA-3
Pangea AC-9 for my Oppo
Pangea AC-14 for my Mapletree tube preamp
Kimber Cable "Tonics" for ICs
Audioquest "Type 2" speaker cables
First, that was very nice karma. Second, your are now in a world of ****. Pangea power cords and Kimber Kable Hero ICs are what started me on a crazy exercise of cable/power upgrades.
Have fun. Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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damn... that Karma lasted a nanosecond...
Congrats, and welcome to the downward rim of the rabbit hole.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
I adapted and evolved right along with my gear.
Good man.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk -
Good for you man. Just a willingness to try is all you need....and your ears.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Glad your enjoying it all Nice Karma Brother! 2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
Welcome to the club! All it took was an open mind and a willingness to spend some $$$ to find out for yourself.
Cables Matter, period!
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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Great karma. Glad you cables make you happy.
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Congrats man, I bet those speakers just keep sounding better and better!
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Congrats on your new cables. Awesome Karma. With a list of tunes like those what more do you need/want-well maybe more enjoy the music ..
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Karma ships out to ZLTFUL this week via the wife's company's shipping department. Probably no charge. Just give me a few days to pack it all up real nice.TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
TV: 65" Samsung QLED 4K
Fronts: Energy RC70 --- Center: Energy RC-LCR
Front Heights: Polk RC65i --- Rears: Polk RC85i --- Sub: Power Sound Audio XS15
Pioneer VSX-1120K --- Parasound HCA-1000A --- Oppo BDP-103
Vincent Audio SA31 preamp --- Teac UD301 DAC
AIYIMA Tube T7 preamp --- Nobsound 12AX7 tube preamplifier -
A couple of thousand years ago Aristotle said that the greatest pleasure by far is the pleasure of learning.
Well done ROHfan! You have learned a very important -- and potentially expensive :~) -- lesson!
Much pleasure to you in your new listening experiences.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.
Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.
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